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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372350 04/07/12 04:20 AM
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Exactly Jack, if Gene was mentoring this kid "over the years", and claims to have respect for Axiom, Ian, and Amie, something is just not right. Why all the evil towards Axiom, and no other companies, and prying for information to be disclosed. Also, many of the comments have knowledge/technical statements that would not come from some 16-18yr old kid, oh yeah he had consulting "over the years". You are what you eat, and you spew what you learn from your mentors. jm2c but to me it is all BS. I could be wrong, and I hope I am. Even if this is true, why would you let someone use your email address to send emails on your behalf. If that is true he would be fired in an instance.

Ok, off to enjoy a beer and forget about this nonsense.


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SirQuack #372355 04/07/12 04:31 AM
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Even after Gene supposedly made up with Axiom, he was still putting little jabs at Axiom into his write-ups. This need to school Axiom on how loudspeakers should be made goes along quite well with the JBall personality. While I don't know all of the facts, and I'm not privy to all of the circumstances leading up to this point, it's hard to buy the story so far.

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CV #372356 04/07/12 04:37 AM
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Hmm... relative under the bus is a creative twist. Seems fishy. I have no idea what to believe, but the bottom line is someone affiliated with Audioholics has been surreptitiously attacking Axiom.

That is a very, very sad thing.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372357 04/07/12 04:41 AM
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We'll likely never really know for sure.

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ghost271 #372358 04/07/12 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: ghost271
Thanks for clarifying things Ian.
I had been reading the bashing over the last few weeks and was rather concerned if buying my Axiom had been a bad choice and perhaps i had been 'duped'. Then to calm my fears, all i had to do was go downstairs to my theatre and put on a few demo blurays, and a couple CDs. At that point i was so happy with what i heard, that quite frankly i didnt care. I was and still am EXTREMELY happy with my Axiom system.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372359 04/07/12 04:45 AM
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In re-reading Gene's statement, he mentions the nice "chat" with Ian and Amie, and assured them "he" meaning Jball would no longer cause these types of disruptions. Why not put Jball on the phone or video skype to personally appologize to Amie and Ian. Of course that could be staged as well, but if he is in fact a person, adult, college student, or whatever, that would help confirm he is not fiction.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
fredk #372360 04/07/12 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: fredk
Hmm... relative under the bus is a creative twist. Seems fishy. I have no idea what to believe, but the bottom line is someone affiliated with Audioholics has been surreptitiously attacking Axiom.

That is a very, very sad thing.

I agree 100%.

My father used to be a cop, coincidentally in the province of Ontario. One thing he always said that i continue to struggle to apply, is "there are two sides to every story". It is very easy to get caught up in the only side you hear.

Granted there are not enough specifics to peg down the exact 'culprit' but the fact that Gene has admitted to the Audioholics connection at the very least confirms the basis of the story; that someone at Audioholics was targeting Axiom Audio in a malicious and purposeful manner and this is a pretty sad picture of the state of human beings.
There's just too many people out there who are like that...and the world goes round and round, war after war.


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Ian #372362 04/07/12 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon

JBall is one of the few people I have on ignore here. Audioholics is the site that brought me to Axiom, yet I'll never visit them again

What Chris said!

P.S. Haven’t read anything at Audioholics for a couple years, lost credibility when they started reviewing the products they were selling.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372369 04/07/12 12:28 PM
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The only saving grace for Gene is there is no common similarities to their posting style whatsoever. So in fact it could be true what he says that JBall was an employee of his. Still very concerning that there is an "industry insider" connection.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372370 04/07/12 12:37 PM
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Well that's easy enough to do. Look at Bbigwyres (however it's spelled).


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