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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
J. B. #372864 04/11/12 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: J. B.
another point of view is that capital punishment does not diminish the number of murders.

Another point of view taken to an extreme, I guess. You may be forgetting that when there's talk of lynch mobs around here (wait, when was that?!), it's figurative. Despite his love of firearms and insanely fast cars, I'm sure you'd agree that michaeld is not advocating capital punishment for JBall and billyp. So, I'm not sure how your post is appropriate or relevant. Are you saying to ignore it and hope and wish that the mean people go away or just get nicer?


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372867 04/11/12 02:21 PM
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i was just saying there is another way of seeing it; the "extreme" was only to illustrate the idea in a simple manner.

of course it has nothing to do directly (literally) with what we're talking about, just food for thought in a general way.

i thought that the idea would never have been taken at face value.

in clear language, jumping hard on one person will not prevent others from doing the same thing.

Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
J. B. #372871 04/11/12 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: J. B.
jumping hard on one person will not prevent others from doing the same thing.

Of course it won't in any absolute sense. Some people will be jerks no matter what. However, you are losing the bigger picture, because for many people, seeing the consequences will affect how they choose to act in the future. I agree with Michael's point that significant negative consequences are helpful in cases like this to discourage (cf. eliminate) unwanted behavior.

Basic psychology.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
medic8r #372872 04/11/12 02:41 PM
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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372873 04/11/12 02:42 PM
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No. You started a Political Thread.

You're grounded.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
MarkSJohnson #372877 04/11/12 02:52 PM
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No. You started a Political Thread.

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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372879 04/11/12 03:19 PM
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significant negative consequences

I think the internet is fairly unique in that significant negative consequences just stir up the trolls more and more. The persons that the SNCs might be beneficial too don't really post much if at all.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372880 04/11/12 03:26 PM
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Good point, Lampy. The personality traits of your garden variety troll are such that they're extremely resistant to even the most constructive criticism. They're too likely to double down on the antagonism until they run out of fuel somehow.

Insecure narcissism + projective paranoia + lack of metacognition = recipe for disaster.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
medic8r #372882 04/11/12 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: medic8r
Insecure narcissism + projective paranoia + lack of metacognition = recipe for disaster.


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Re: Pursuing the Truth In Audio You Say?
Ian #372892 04/11/12 04:29 PM
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Just to be clear, I did not, nor am I suggesting that a lynch mob or posse be formed to march on the alleged perpetrator(s) or his/her fan club. I am also not suggesting that everyone jump in and start a feeding frenzy or fill pages with disrespectful or hurtful posts/comments. Tact and diplomacy will go further than snide remarks, but that does not include ignoring the situation with the hope that it go away - and stay away on its own.

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