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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
Gr8_White_North #375135 05/04/12 04:25 PM
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Well, hey, everybody knows tube amps sound "warm" and class D amps sound "harsh", right? smile

I guess I fall along the line that says all things being equal, more power is better than less, and less distortion is better than more.

So, if you've got clean power that is not working too hard to provide the peak volume level you desire, then I'm betting you'd have a hard time differentiating one amp from another.


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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
Gr8_White_North #375137 05/04/12 04:35 PM
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I think it's fun to hear stories from people who are getting joy from their systems.

And "measures" is not the same as "sounds". Two ears and a brain are not the same thing as a microphone or oscilloscope.

I'll go ahead and assert that not all amps are *perceived* the same. Some bring more joy to people than others. Good for them!


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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
tomtuttle #375138 05/04/12 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
I'll go ahead and assert that not all amps are *perceived* the same. Some bring more joy to people than others. Good for them!

That's really the best was to see things. Acknowledge that your way of seeing things is not the only way, and that there are many paths to happiness and fulfillment.

And to bring this thread full circle, one can say the same thing about politics and religion, too. smile

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pmbuko #375141 05/04/12 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Acknowledge that your way of seeing things is not the only way, and that there are many paths to happiness and fulfillment.

And to bring this thread full circle, one can say the same thing about politics and religion, too. smile
Amen, and AMEN! It is incredibly liberating when you can let go of "I can't be right unless you are wrong." Separating "good" and "bad" fromo "like" and "dislike" is pretty rewarding also.


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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
Gr8_White_North #375143 05/04/12 04:51 PM
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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
J. B. #375152 05/04/12 07:26 PM
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dont go corrupting the thread with the richard clark bs. Unless you have taken a double blind with him and can show me the video i dont really care to hear about it. If you believe that and want to use an "I" statement as in " I took the test and I feel all apms are------. Putting someone on the spot like that doesnt prove a thing. Take a word like "Pudding" say it 20 or 30 times, it starts to sound stupid,right. well abx testing is the same thing .


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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
Gr8_White_North #375153 05/04/12 07:34 PM
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And there we are with the my way or the highway. Why don't we bring cables and transports into this, too?


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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
Gr8_White_North #375154 05/04/12 07:35 PM
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I think the word pudding sounds stupid the first time I say it, but I guarantee that if you give me two different speakers, I can identify one vs. the other, far better than chance, in a level matched, ABX test. Amps on the other hand, I really doubt it.


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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
Ken.C #375161 05/04/12 07:50 PM
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thats was not a my way or highway at all. It just seems that Richard Clark is the only fall back that the (all amps sound the same camp) have. This thiking that Richard Clark is right and everyone else on the planet is stupid gets my feathers ruffled. (plus my boss has me pissied off right now too grin)

I would be the last person to tell someone what to believe. My point is that it seems more and more the few are once again trying to control the many. I like big shiny powerful things theymake me happy ,why does it bother other people that i spent my money in this way ,and they feel they have to convince me otherwise. Another forum i go to and mostly read and dont post has some members that come right out and attack anyone who says amps sound different.I just dont care for people that feel there lot in life is to make everyone think like them. Ah crap these threads always end up the same way, pass the popcorn grin


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Re: all AMP'S sound the same
Gr8_White_North #375165 05/04/12 08:19 PM
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Even Richard Clark says there are reasons to buy more expensive amps: build quality, more power, warranty, looks, features, etc. Just don't spend more because the manufacturer tells you that theirs sounds better (which most makers don't actually come out and say, only the reviewers do that).


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