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#377214 - 05/27/12 11:56 AM Looking for some advice...
Belgarath Offline
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Found this site yesterday and figured I would ask a few questions of the resident Axiom experts.

I am upgrading my entire HT set up, the only thing left to do is add a new HT/surround speaker package.

Been doing some research and have narrowed it down to 3 or 4 possible manufacturers.

Axiom...obviously.

Asperion.

PSB.

Totem.

The PSB and Totem's I can demo in person easily enough, but from the things I've read about both Axiom and Asperion they are very highly thought of.

I have a medium sized room, about 15 feet by 17 feet and there is plenty of carpet/fabric/drapes to help "deaden" the room, and am looking to spend about $2-2500.00(I don't need a subwoofer, I bought a new one recently)

Any thoughts?

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#377220 - 05/27/12 01:08 PM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
Gr8_White_North Offline
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Welcome Belgarath. You dont mention what the WAF ratio is but you have some options. Use the HT Wizard on the home page and just eliminate the recommended sub to get started. It all depends on if you want a large tower or something less imposing.
How much room do you have for a center channel , the VP 180 and Vp 160 are very large.
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#377222 - 05/27/12 01:19 PM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Hi Belgarath welcome to the forum. M60's for your fronts. VP-160 for the center. QS8 for the surrounds. All this gear come very highly rated, from the members, along with some others. There are reviews you can read both, professional and by people who have purchased this audio gear here on this web sight if you haven't already located it.
There is also a HT wizard(purchasing tool) that could be of assistance too you as well. Call Axiom, speak with one of their Representative, they truly are a great company to work with. There will be a number of forum members that will try to help assist you in your potential purchase. Have fun, and again welcome aboard.
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#377232 - 05/27/12 03:34 PM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
fredk Offline
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Totem is pricey for what you get. PSB makes good speakers, but I thing you need to go at least to a mid line speaker before you approach Axiom quality of sound. I have not listened to Aperions.

As far as the Axiom line, they all have the same neutral sound. The M80's have a slight advantage in the midrange and treble over the M60 or M22. Not a huge difference mind you.

Once you add a sub to the M22m it sounds almost identical to the M60. I had a hard time telling the difference in a direct comparison where I could flip back and forth with a speaker selector switch.

So, it really depends what you want to fit into your room.
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#377234 - 05/27/12 04:50 PM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
Belgarath Offline
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Thanks for the welcome and advice Socketman, Gary Vose Sr. and FredK.

I was looking at the M22's and I think the VP 160 would fit nicely in my listening room.

What really got my attention was the near universal praise for the QS8's, and Axiom's reputation amongst the online audiophile fraternity.

Also being a Canadian company is a big plus for me. I have 4 Paradigm's, 2 Clements, 2 Mirage's and 2 Signet's in my collection. But I want a Matched set of speakers for my new HT.

I have a question...does Axiom make their own drivers? Not that it's a big deal but I am curious.

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#377235 - 05/27/12 05:35 PM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
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Yes, they do, although the smaller ones are built at an Axiom owned factory in China. The sub drivers are built at the Canadian factory, where the speaker assembly also happens.
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#377269 - 05/28/12 09:10 AM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
Joe_in_SC Offline
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The M22s are pretty amazing speakers if your space is tight. However, if you're considering the VP160, you'd be a lot better off matching that with M60s (assuming you have room for floor standing speakers). Add the QS8 surrounds and you'll have an excellent system in that size room.
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#377271 - 05/28/12 09:45 AM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
Belgarath Offline
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Thanks Ken.C, just about everyone has a factory in China these days but it's nice to know they make some of the drivers here.

Joe in SC...that is the Big question. I calculated the room size, it's about 2300 cubic feet. Right now I have my pair of IMF Mk IV's for my stereo, and they are massive so I think a pair of M-60's wouldn't be too big.

It's a difficult choice...but fun at the same time.:)

What do you all think of the VP 150 center channel? I've read both positive and negative views on it. If I go bookshelf instead of floorstanding speakers I gather it is a better match than it's big brothers.

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#377274 - 05/28/12 10:47 AM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
dakkon Offline
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My room is 2400 cubic feet, and opens to the kitchen, as well as the formal dinning room. I upgraded from a vp150-180 and am very happy i did. If you have room for the 180 i would say to go that way i always felt that the 150 was to small to blend with my M60's well, the 180 blends perfectly...

You can read Andrews reply here... Simple answer is, yes Axiom manufactures all of their own drivers, as well as their cabinets in house up in the cold north....
http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=370119&page=2

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#377294 - 05/28/12 01:14 PM Re: Looking for some advice... [Re: Belgarath]
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Originally Posted By: Belgarath
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What do you all think of the VP 150 center channel? I've read both positive and negative views on it. If I go bookshelf instead of floorstanding speakers I gather it is a better match than it's big brothers.



I would stick with the VP-160 or 180 if you are going with a horizontal center. Have you considered vertical center? If so you're best option is simply get 3 M60's or 3 M80's for your LCR if you have the room.

Otherwise I wholly agree with the praise for the QS8's as surrounds. It was the quest for a better surround speaker that 1st led me to Axiom several years ago now. Good luck!
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