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I agree that "liking" something is not necessarily the same as determining its "quality". I'm going to disagree that determination of artistic goodness is an objective pursuit, though. Hear, hear. It's an impossible task, especially with a term as broad as "best." Too many variables, too much of it open to interpretation. In the end, I think the emotional resonance is the most important aspect of any art, and that's where it really does come down to choosing favorites, regardless of technical merits. Not that I know anything. There's probably art out there that's specifically designed to have zero emotional impact. Michael Bay?
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I agree that "liking" something is not necessarily the same as determining its "quality". I'm going to disagree that determination of artistic goodness is an objective pursuit, though. Hear hear, again!!!!
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Look! We have a scientific study for The Formula For a Perfect Movie. There's even a graph!  Seriously, I'd like to know more about this study. We aren't given hardly any info except it suggests it has to do with our attention spans. A couple of interesting points: In a new study, professor James Cutting found that the more recent the blockbuster, the more closely the length of its shots followed that same fluctuation. ...but just because movies are increasingly pleasing to our subconscious minds doesn't mean that we will necessarily like them more: the Star Wars prequels strictly followed the formula. I totally agree that attention span has nothing to do with liking the movie. Sometimes I think a huge dislike of a movie is what holds my attention...it's so bad, I can't stop watching!
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Very interesting, Mary!
But it looks like the basic population of the research deals with "popular" movies, not with "good" movies. The subsequent quantitative analysis isn't necessarily testing the same premise. All we have is that the attention-span-sensitive editing seems to be a contributing factor to commercial success.
See, by specifying the population BEFORE developing the criteria, the study utterly fails to provide an objective basis for analysis of a given movie.
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Night of the Hunter (did anyone pick this one yet?)
Cape Fear (Robert Mitchum, black and white)
Casablanca (What?!? There's gambling in this casino?!?)
Robot Monster
The Thing (1952 version)
Breaking the Sound Barrier (David Lean 1952, "Mach point 9, buffeting!")
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The Man with X-Ray Eyes, Ray Milland. "If thine eye offends thee, pluck it out"
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"Princess Bride," thanks medic8r for reminding me. That is a classic!
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I need to rewatch that. Prince Humperdinck: First things first, to the death.
Westley: No. To the pain.
Prince Humperdinck: I don't think I'm quite familiar with that phrase.
Westley: I'll explain and I'll use small words so that you'll be sure to understand, you warthog faced buffoon.
Prince Humperdinck: That may be the first time in my life a man has dared insult me.
Westley: It won't be the last. To the pain means the first thing you will lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrists. Next your nose.
Prince Humperdinck: And then my tongue I suppose, I killed you too quickly the last time. A mistake I don't mean to duplicate tonight.
Westley: I wasn't finished. The next thing you will lose will be your left eye followed by your right.
Prince Humperdinck: And then my ears, I understand let's get on with it.
Westley: WRONG. Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, "Dear God! What is that thing," will echo in your perfect ears. That is what to the pain means. It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.
Prince Humperdinck: I think you're bluffing.
Westley: It's possible, Pig, I might be bluffing. It's conceivable, you miserable, vomitous mass, that I'm only lying here because I lack the strength to stand. But, then again... perhaps I have the strength after all.
[slowly rises and points sword directly at the prince]
Westley: DROP... YOUR... SWORD!
Prince Humperdinck: [Humperdinck's mouth hangs open, drops sword to floor
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yeah, i got "Night of the Hunter"; excellent!
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JB, I see you have Das Boot. At least it had a happy ending.
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