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Best movie ever?
#381027 08/02/12 03:38 PM
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Sight & Sound 2012: 'Vertigo' Unseats 'Citizen Kane' As Greatest Movie Ever

Do you agree or disagree? When made, I agree Citizen Cane was way ahead of it's time in production quality, but the story bored me to tears. Overall, I think Vertigo is better...but the best movie? Maybe amongst old movies. Otherwise, I wouldn't put it that high. I'm not sure what movie I'd consider the best though. It's hard not to be biased and include movies that are personal favorites, you know? To me, "best" movie should be good in several areas...production, direction, acting, plot, etc. With all the movies that have come out since Citizen Cane and Vertigo, I wouldn't consider these best anymore.

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Edit: I don't remember liking Citizen Kane and I know I never saw Vertigo. I will have to dig them up again now.

However, after taking a look at their top 10 list and noticing that half of the 10 were made on or before 1941 and the rest are from the 50s and 60s, I do question the objectivity of the critics who took part in the voting. One could easily make fun of the trends of modern blockbusters but surely the industry has not been so completely stagnant for 44 years. But who am I to argue with 846 'experts'.

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My top ten would be predominantly (maybe entirely) from the last 44 years, but that's because I'm of a younger generation and have not yet, despite good intentions, seen many of the older classics. I do like Hitchcock films generally but have not seen Vertigo.


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it's mostly a matter of taste.

i would not see Citizen Kane a second time, whatever the "experts" say about it; Vertigo is far better.

one of the best movies i've seen and seen again is Bergman's Cries and Whispers. Everything about it is excellent and it's filmed as a suite of work of art tableaux.

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sonicfox #381031 08/02/12 04:22 PM
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My favorite film of all time is usually whichever Pixar one I saw last. Except for Cars 2, which stunk, and Brave, which was sort of lame after just the one viewing so far. I'll have to see it again to see if it provides confirmation that Pixar's magic reign ended sometime in 2010.


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No, not the best movie ever, and not even best among old movies, but I'm not a Hitchcock fan.

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sonicfox #381033 08/02/12 06:31 PM
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I can't believe that no one has mentioned Porky's II as of yet.


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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
I can't believe that no one has mentioned Porky's II as of yet.


Maybe not Porky's, but I wouldn't be above listing a sequel as a best movie.

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What Murph said.

The list strikes me as international film intelligentsia congratulating themselves for being so much cooler than the rabble who actually pay the money that allow good films to be made.

I've always loved Vertigo. But the notion that NONE of the top ten films of all time have been made in the last 44 years AND that half of them were made before 1941 is just ludicrous.

Again, I suppose few will agree what qualities constitute "best", but it seems pretty clear that audio fidelity, video fidelity, special effects, and many other factors are simply not even part of the equation on this list.

I think Godfather II is the best movie of all time.


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sonicfox #381037 08/02/12 06:55 PM
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There is no best movie.

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