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Re: Here we go again...
a401classic #382405 09/03/12 01:17 PM
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You have stock in that company, don't you? wink


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Re: Here we go again...
Ken.C #382406 09/03/12 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ken.C
You have stock in that company, don't you? wink


Nope. The Whole House Surge Suppressor I have installed is manufactured by Intermatic. There are a bunch of reputable companies that make these. Leviton is just one of those.


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Re: Here we go again...
Ken.C #382407 09/03/12 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ken.C
I'm surprised, Fred. I heard a fair amount of coverage last week, through Friday. Haven't really been tracking the news much this weekend.

Scott, out of morbid curiosity, what caused the equipment damage? Lightning? Straight power surge? Water?


Short story:
Pretty sure it wasn't lightning - we only heard one distant rumble on Wed evening.
FOund out after the fact that a large tree had fallen on the the main lines out of the sub-station and fried a transformer at that end.

Long story:
But Tuesday at ~ 1AM our bedroom light/fan came on all by itself - sort of. We have a combo ceiling fan/light with a remote control and we usually leave the fan on at night. If the power goes out and comes back on the light will turn on. So we got up and checked everything and it was all OK. CHecked the storm on the internet and TV and it was still well under us. By 5AM when we got up we had no power...

I tried to connect a generator to the house panel through the transfer switch and the main popped immediately, so we were limited to a single extension cord. When we got power, the main kept popping, so I shut off all the breakers and the main stayed on. As I bringing single circuits on line I discovered that 2 of 3 GFI breakers would not stay on and a third regular breaker would not stay on. That was the one for the computer. I tracked the problem down to the Tripp-lite surge suppressor that tripped the breaker upon plug in, along with a good light show. Supposedly it has a $250,000 coverage limit, but my guess is that it will be a huge uphill battle to get a claim settled. We'll see.
Still trying to figure out how only the audio equipment on two different Brick Wall surge suppressors was effected when the other equipment (TV, cable box, 3 dvd players) plugged into the same suppressors was unharmed... 'trons, I guess.

Oh well. We have an unflooded house and all of us are healthy. The rest is just stuff. And we are fortunate enough to have stuff.


Scott

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Re: Here we go again...
BlueJays1 #382408 09/03/12 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: BlueJays1
You should be using Whole House Surge Suppressors instead. Something like this. Proper surge protection is one that doesn't let destructive surges inside the home.

http://www.smarthome.com/4860/Leviton-51120-1-Whole-House-Surge-Suppressor-Surge-Protector/p.aspx


I saw those a long time ago, but was quite skeptical at how it worked considering the wiring diagram; One uses two circuits downstream of the main lines - on 12ga wires?? But for $175 it might be worth finding out.


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Re: Here we go again...
a401classic #382414 09/03/12 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: BlueJays1
You should be using Whole House Surge Suppressors instead. Something like this. Proper surge protection is one that doesn't let destructive surges inside the home.

http://www.smarthome.com/4860/Leviton-51120-1-Whole-House-Surge-Suppressor-Surge-Protector/p.aspx


I saw those a long time ago, but was quite skeptical at how it worked considering the wiring diagram; One uses two circuits downstream of the main lines - on 12ga wires?? But for $175 it might be worth finding out.



There are a few different ways whole house surge protectors can be installed but it's effectiveness is more or less the same. The destructive surge would seek the easiest and shortest path to ground (the whole house protector) which will harmlessly dissipate the surge outside in earth.


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Re: Here we go again...
a401classic #382446 09/04/12 06:36 PM
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Been offline for the long weekend here but I'm glad to hear things went relatively well.


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Murph #382579 09/08/12 08:12 PM
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So Amie put me in contact with Brent who had me check a couple of fuses I didn't know were there and sure enough, a blown fuse! FOr those keeping track, that would make 5 fuses in the model I have. So those are order (hard to find 5x20mm fuses here in US except on line). So the EP500 should live again. laugh

Now on to the Emotiva equipment. Started with the amp. Same story, the outboard fuses are fine, but I started pulling individual amp modules and each one has a 5x20mm fuse right next to a pair of what looks like pretty good sized MOV's. So far those are OK, but then I took a closer look inside the section of the chassis under the power cable connection and there's another fuse (5x20mm) on a board in there and its smoked. It says "bel RU (SA)" on one end and "T160L250V" on the other. I went to the bel website and that number comes up as no good and no other GOogle hits for that fuse spec are coming up... Emo is closed on Saturday, so unless someone here can tell me what size fuse this is, I'll have to wait. It has a pretty good sized single wire inside, so I'm thinking its bigger than 160mA.

Next stop; the Pre-Pro...


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Re: One foot out of the grave, hoping for rest of body
a401classic #382580 09/08/12 08:50 PM
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6 fuses blown?
Maybe it's time to get that Monster Power Surge protector...oh, no, waitaminute...

crazy stuff


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Re: One foot out of the grave, hoping for rest of body
chesseroo #382581 09/08/12 09:13 PM
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No, only 1 blown fuse per device. But there are 5 fuses my EP500 - 1 - 15A fuse, 3 - 250mA fuses (now 1A per Brent) and 2 more 15A fuses in a small holder just under the power cable connection, one of these was blown.

On the Emotive MPS-1 amp, there are 2 - 15A fuses near the power cable input, 1 - 15A on each of the 7 channels, and 1 - ?? amp fuse inside the chassis on the power distribution block - blown. That's 10 total fuses on this thing!

On the Emotiva DMC-1 I have only found 1 - 2A fuse inside the chassis. It was blown.


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Re: One foot out of the grave, hoping for rest of body
a401classic #382582 09/09/12 01:13 AM
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Scott, if the labeling is correct, "160" does mean 160 mA, but more common for amplifier uses would be 1.6A fuses like these .


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