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Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #416962 02/10/16 05:27 PM
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I have the mrx500 and previously denon avr4802 really like the arc over compared to the other room corrections out there... other room correction seem to focus the sweet-spot in a small seating area with arc the sweet-spot area seems quite big, actually almost the whole room the only downside (in arc gen 1) seems correcting the subs... but the newer gens seems have over come this issue.

(looks like the mrx500 & xpa-5 will be up for sale soon)


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Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #416966 02/10/16 08:17 PM
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I just came across someone who people are claiming can give a really good deal on a new MRX-1120. Probably still too rich for my blood, but I am tempted to ask... Authorized reseller who is active on some Facebook groups.


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Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #417242 02/26/16 08:38 PM
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I started playing around with putting an on-wall M3 on to my ceiling. To get it at a reasonable angle on my 7'9" ceiling, it really hung down a lot more than I would care for aesthetics reasons.

So I starting thinking more about what to do... A cleaner look would be in-ceiling of course, but 1) I am concerned about how I would put them in the ceiling without hitting some hat channel or ceiling joist, and 2) I am not eager to cut 4 good sized holes into my soundproofed ceiling (the one part of the room that I spent the most money on soundproofing as well) and stuffing 4 speakers into those holes, 3) putting in-ceiling speakers wouldn't let me angle the speakers towards the listening area as suggested.

I sent some questions to Axiom, and Debbie responded today with a suggestion on how to get an on-wall M3 to mount to the ceiling, and also confirmed that the in-ceiling M3s have been coming with aimable tweeters for a while now.

So, I also figured out a way to find where my ceiling joists are in the theater room. I also have some notes buried around here somewhere that have my plan for where I would have put the hat channel.

Then is just comes down to (for the in-ceiling speakers) finding the openings for where the speakers could go, see if they should go there (proper location for Atmos/DTS:X), determining how much sound will leak into the room above, and lastly, figuring out if aimable tweeters is "good enough" or if the full speaker needs to angle towards the listening area.


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Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #417244 02/27/16 01:37 AM
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Thanks for the lead, the mrx1120 is on it's way. I should get it on Wednesday, just can't wait to test those in-ceiling speakers...

Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
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Nick did you ever think of using hd velcro fro your m3 on walls..
or even 3m double sided tape just might do the trick


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JBG #417247 02/27/16 05:32 AM
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Yeah, I thought about that and even posted it someone on here. In talking to Debbie, she mentioned using the included power T bracket and then removing the driver and putting a screw through the back and into a stud.

For me, I would measure and drill a nice hole first, and use a toggle bolt so that I wasn't attached to a stud, but was attached to my double 5/8" thick drywalled ceiling (1.25" total thickness) which is more than enough.


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Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #417320 03/01/16 03:33 PM
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Well I did it!

Today was the day...

I've had my four QS8s and my VP150 in boxes for a while now and I just filled out the Trade-Up information and placed an order for four more on-wall M3s that I will mount to my ceiling for Atmos/DTS:X duty.

Why did I go with on-wall M3s?

Well, I really had 3 choices.

1) On-wall M2s (smaller, still has a woofer and tweeter that my mains and center have)
2) On-wall M3s (just like my four on-wall M3s that I am using for surround channels, also has a woofer and tweeter that is the same as what my mains and center have)
3) In-ceiling M3 (same as the on-wall M3 for speaker components, aimable tweeter, and a flush/clean look in the room)

I eliminated the M2s pretty quickly. I felt that the larger woofers in the M3s would match better with the M3s already covering half of the room.

I really thought that I was going to end up with in-ceiling M3s. I love the nice and clean look, and the aimable tweeter is very helpful, however as I starting trying to map out where my ceiling joists were, I quickly found that there was a joist running just behind my rear row of seats and there wasn't any room to put the rear overhead in-ceiling speakers between the rear row and the soffit thanks to this joist. I never bothered to even see if the hat channel was in the way as it didn't matter any more. (For note, the joists in front of the first row were perfect for those speakers.) Also, I still wasn't very fond (nor was my wife) about the speakers being cut into the soundproofed ceiling.

So we did some tests. I sat in "my seat" and had my wife stand on a chair with an on-wall M3 wired up and no other speakers on. I had her mess around with mounting it flat on the ceiling vs. angled, and put it into a few different locations to see what the sound was like. Definitely needs to be angled as the sound is much cleaner.

The 2nd test was just with me holding the speaker in different locations (all 4 possible locations) and at an angle just so my wife and then my 17 year old daughter could give their opinions on how it would look with the speaker being down below the ceiling. Surprisingly they both though that it looked fine... even at an angle. This is where I thought that my wife was going to jump in and say "that is ugly. I don't want to see them." but she didn't.

So this morning I made the order. Now I am just waiting to find out how I get my shipping labels to send the 5 boxes back to Axiom. Not sure if they mail those to me, or send me the labels electronically for me to print out and put on the boxes.

Fun times are on the horizon.


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Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #417323 03/02/16 01:16 AM
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Congrats
Should look great having them all visibly match around your theater.
I've been using a pair of the M3 for my heights for the last year, really enjoy the full sound they have.

Cheers

Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #417326 03/02/16 03:30 AM
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I should note that I went with a paintable "finish" on them so that I can paint them to match the ceiling. While the classic "boston cherry" that the rest of the speakers are finished in didn't look bad next to a dark brown ceiling, having the speakers match the ceiling will be better.

Have to break out my hvlp sprayer for the job.


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Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere
nickbuol #417327 03/02/16 03:34 AM
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I also ordered this bad boy today.



It is also coming from Canada and with the USD being stronger than the CAD, the pricing works out nicely in my favor (cheaper, even with duty tax and shipping, than if I bought it in the US) and it comes from an authorized installer so it will have a warranty.

This should be a big jump up in quality over my 5 year old Onkyo TX-NR709


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