Re: sshhh don't tell the wife (LFR1100 questions)
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Does this mean if your mains are 10 feet apart, they should be 10 feet from the back wall? That seems a bit much.
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Re: sshhh don't tell the wife (LFR1100 questions)
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If you had to have the perfect room to have LFRs, most of us would fail, I think that's why they made them so that you don't need a perfect room. Mine sure sound nice in my non-perfect 8'H x 13'W x 18'L living room.
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Re: sshhh don't tell the wife (LFR1100 questions)
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Personally, I'd go for the M80s and use the extra cash for a second sub. I love my M80s, they are simply awesome. If you listen primarily to music then the LFRs might be a better choice. I watch more movies though and the M80s are awesome. I have an EP500 and a smaller Polk sub. I definitely want and plan to get a second EP500. The M80s are more than adequate but I can never have enough bass I'll know the bass is good when I start popping nails from the drywall
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Re: sshhh don't tell the wife (LFR1100 questions)
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Well, of course it's "a bit much". "Perfect" usually is.
You don't need "a perfect room", but since the LFR's radiate in more than one direction, it's more likely that you're going to place something in the room that affects them. If you have a couch or a wall unit (or no wall at all) behind your M80's, it's much less likely to noticeably impact their performance.
The room is important. And I live in the real world, not the land of "should". If I were going to invest in the upgrade from the M80's to the LFR's, I'd make sure that my listening experience wasn't compromised by mundane concerns like extraneous furniture in the room or the architecture of my house.
Lots of people are lucky to have dedicated listening/viewing rooms that are nice, uncluttered rectangles. I'm not sure whether to envy or pity them.
I guess ultimately, I'm with Boltron. I've never heard the LRF's and I'm sure they are magical in even an "acceptable" room. I'm also sure you could set them - or any other speaker - up in such a way that they sound dreadful.
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Re: sshhh don't tell the wife (LFR1100 questions)
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I started with M80s and still have them for heights(I love seeing them up front) and have them set up on my subs. But that is for movies mostly.
The LFRs are mainly for music and BD concerts but sounds better than any theatre for movies, that's for sure.
If you do get the LFRs, make sure that you get the DSP 3board for your VP180..enjoy whatever you decide!
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Wait... you're using the M80's as HEIGHT speakers? I must have missed the pictures.
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I'm keeping it a surprise for when you come visit Tom. LOL I will one day have a picture or two for you.
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I'll know the bass is good when I start popping nails from the drywall LOL. I cured my "not enough bass" problem by switching to a Pioneer Elite. Audyssey controls the bass more leaving it sounding inadequate at times. Pioneer just lets it flow. Sometimes too much, but in my opinion, too much beats inadequate every time.
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Re: sshhh don't tell the wife (LFR1100 questions)
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I'd assume the LFR's in a 5.1 will give you a similar sound field as you would get with a 7.1 setup using front presence speakers. I'd say the LFR's are more enveloping than those without them realize... it's a hard thing to convey without the experience. I started with M80s and still have them for heights(I love seeing them up front) and have them set up on my subs. But that is for movies mostly.
The LFRs are mainly for music and BD concerts but sounds better than any theatre for movies, that's for sure.
If you do get the LFRs, make sure that you get the DSP 3board for your VP180..enjoy whatever you decide! Yeah. M80's as heights... and he gives me a hard time over my subs.. *rolls eyes* Here is a picture of my setup VP-180, LFR's, as well as Dual EP-600's. The amps are Krell kav-250a/kav-250a3 and a Krell FPB 300cx the 300cx is power the front drivers on the LFR's an the 250a is powering the rear's the 250a/3 is powering the center and the surrounds. Depending on the source material, the LFR's can be Amazing. I would say the determining factor should be what your going to use the system for. Do you listen to stereo music at all? This is one of the primary areas where the LFR's shine. As well as a well mastered Blu ray movie or concert. If you're going to use the system primarily for TV, and an occasional movie. Then i would tell you to save your money and pass on the LFR's.. However, if you already listen to a decent amount of 2 channel, or blu ray music then i would say it would be worth the extra cash...
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Re: sshhh don't tell the wife (LFR1100 questions)
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Alex...what the heck, the dogs move out. I want some doggy pics.....man, those subs are big!
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