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#385167 - 11/06/12 12:13 PM
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![]() veteran ![]() Registered: 11/18/11 Posts: 172 Loc: Toronto |
When using the Trigger, the EP500 does not always wake up properly. The LED on the back switches from red to green however the sub output level is severely reduced. In other words it is working but at say 20% volume. The only way to recover is to cycle the power on the EP500.
The issue is intermittent and the last test I did I found that the issue occurred after 8 days with an average of 25 power cycles (i.e. turning on the home theater). I have tried with two Denon receivers and an external Emotiva trigger box. It's not a big deal as the idle power draw is real low (~10 watts) but it would be nice if it worked. Incidentally, I use the trigger on my ADA1000 without problems.
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#385168 - 11/06/12 12:15 PM
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![]() connoisseur Registered: 01/19/11 Posts: 1291 Loc: Quebec, Canada |
Andrew,
i got 2 subs: one PC12 Plus (Bash) and one PC13 Ultra (Sledge) connected through a "Y" adapter at the AVR. Levels: 12 Plus: 10 o'clock 13U: -12 dB. The 13 Ultra is calibrated to output about 5 dB higher SPL than the 12 Plus for the same signal input. The 12 Plus is tuned to 16 Hz The 13 Ultra is tuned to 10 Hz (2 ports plugged and HPF filter set at "sealed"). phase: 12 Plus: 0 13 Ultra: 180 Connection: RCA AVR: Marantz SR5005 Speakers: M80 Xover: 64-80: can't decide which is best... Trim levels: M80: L: -3 R: -2.5 Subs: -6.5 (run 3 dB hot) I haven't even looked to see if there are triggers anywhere in my system...
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#385175 - 11/06/12 05:13 PM
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![]() connoisseur Registered: 09/07/11 Posts: 1721 |
Andrew:
My Audio Only System 2.1: 1 X EP400; Vol Level: 1 o'clock (60%); Freq XOver: 80Hz; Phase: 0 degrees; Subsonic Filter: OFF; Connections: Hi Level Inputs; Amp: Yaquin MC-100B Stereo Tube Integrated Amp (65W/Channel); Main Speakers: 2 X M2s; Integrated Amp: No internal settings - 1 Volume Control only; and Trigger: Not used. I manually turn sub off between uses. HT System: 2 X Velodyne DLS-3750 10" subs; Vol Level: 25% (set by Audyssey); XOvers: Low Pass - Direct; Hi Pass - 80 Hz; Connections: LFE IN (both channels using a splitter); Receiver: Denon AVR 891; Main Speakers: 2 X M22s; Phase: 0 Degrees; Subsonic Filter: None; Receiver Settings: Audyssey set to 80 HZ for subs; Trigger: Not used. Turned ON & OFF with Remote; & Sub DSP Setting: #3 Jazz/Classical - flattest response. TAM |
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#385176 - 11/06/12 06:39 PM
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![]() aficionado Registered: 11/16/10 Posts: 901 Loc: Victoria,BC |
What Axiom subwoofer(s) do you own?
Two Paradigm PS-1000s Where do you have the Level, Frequency, Phase, and Subsonic Filter (if applicable) controls set? All halfway,12'oclock How are you connecting your signal source to the subwoofer (RCA/XLR/High Level)? XLR at the AV controller and into RCA at the sub end. What receiver/processor/pre-amp/integrated amplifier are you using? Onkyo PR-SC5508 AV controller with PA-MC5500 for side, rear surrounds and heights. Five Outlaw 2200 mono-blocks for the fronts and center. What are you using for your main speakers? LFR 1100s Where do you have the crossover frequency and trim levels set in your processor/receiver for your main speakers and your Axiom subwoofer? LFRs are set to: 80Hz(THX) Subwoofers are set to: 2Ch THX Ultra2 Boundry gain compensation on Loudness plus on Are you using the trigger on your subwoofer? They have an auto on feature and then shut down on standby when not in use. Edited by SBrown (11/06/12 06:40 PM) |
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#385178 - 11/06/12 07:50 PM
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![]() connoisseur Registered: 02/08/04 Posts: 1863 |
Originally Posted By: Boltron When using the Trigger, the EP500 does not always wake up properly. The LED on the back switches from red to green however the sub output level is severely reduced. In other words it is working but at say 20% volume. The only way to recover is to cycle the power on the EP500. This is the same issue i was having... i discussed it with Brent, i made the decision to just let the amps idle as they were not "turning on" even though the LED was indicatig the circuitry had switched from off to on. i.e. red to green.... i verified the trigger being used was working by using it on one of the amps, the trigger in question works just fine. I was getting 0 out put though, not reduced output. As though the amp had not switched on at all.... |
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#385195 - 11/07/12 07:55 AM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 10/05/06 Posts: 6955 Loc: PEI, Canada |
I keep meaning to double check in the evening but I never do so here is what I can recall.
What Axiom subwoofer(s) do you own?EP500 Where do you have the Level, Frequency, Phase, and Subsonic Filter (if applicable) controls set?Level = 7-8 oclock, Frequency= bypass on sub, 80 on receiver, phase=normal How are you connecting your signal source to the subwoofer (RCA/XLR/High Level)? RCA What receiver/processor/pre-amp/integrated amplifier are you using? Denon 3608 What are you using for your main speakers? Axiom M60 Where do you have the crossover frequency and trim levels set in your processor/receiver for your main speakers and your Axiom subwoofer? 80 Hz all speakers. Center +1.5, rMain -.5 rSuround -1.5, Sub -2 Note on my sub trim: This results in the sub running hot in most of the room but still a bit weak in my main seating position. If I try to even out the seating position, it's too boomy in the rest of the room. I blame the room, not the sub. Are you using the trigger on your subwoofer? No Edited by Murph (11/07/12 08:00 AM) Edit Reason: added note
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#385200 - 11/07/12 08:28 AM
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![]() connoisseur Registered: 08/27/07 Posts: 3399 Loc: Laval, Quebec, Canada |
What Axiom subwoofer(s) do you own?
=> EP-500 Where do you have the Level, Frequency, Phase, and Subsonic Filter (if applicable) controls set? => Level is fairly low (can't see it easily), all other parameters at defaults (no subsonic on my unit) How are you connecting your signal source to the subwoofer (RCA/XLR/High Level)? => XLR What receiver/processor/pre-amp/integrated amplifier are you using? => Anthem Statement D2v What are you using for your main speakers? => M-80s Where do you have the crossover frequency and trim levels set in your processor/receiver for your main speakers and your Axiom subwoofer? => Mains at 60hz, subwoofer at 100hz (brickwall at 100 in my unit) Are you using the trigger on your subwoofer? => YES, a lot FEATURE THAT WOULD BE NICE: Since I listen to a lot of SACDs that don't filter low frequencies, many recordings have annoying noises below 20hz. It would be nice to have a processor-controlled subsonic filter trigger (a second 12V trigger for subsonic filter would be fine). Other wise some USB controls via PC interface would also be nice.
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#385212 - 11/07/12 12:04 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 05/13/02 Posts: 5171 Loc: western canada |
What Axiom subwoofer(s) do you own?
EP350 Where do you have the Level, Frequency, Phase, and Subsonic Filter (if applicable) controls set? Level: 45% (about 11 oclock) Frequency: 50-55 Hz Phase: 0 Sub-sonic: n/a How are you connecting your signal source to the subwoofer (RCA/XLR/High Level)? RCA What receiver/processor/pre-amp/integrated amplifier are you using? Onkyo 797 (circa 2004) What are you using for your main speakers? Axiom M60 v2 Where do you have the crossover frequency and trim levels set in your processor/receiver for your main speakers and your Axiom subwoofer? Crossover: none, main speakers set to large Trim levels: default (0 db) Are you using the trigger on your subwoofer? Yes and it works fine Edited by chesseroo (11/07/12 12:04 PM)
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#385233 - 11/07/12 02:09 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 12/27/08 Posts: 6874 Loc: It's all about the location. |
My HT is in limbo presently(darn renovations!)
I have a Paradigm DSP3400, I remember having it set at 1/4 gain, can't recall what it was crossed over at 40-60hz, run by Denon 2809 with M80s. One feature I really like is the auto on/off.
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#385295 - 11/08/12 04:05 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 12/06/07 Posts: 7786 Loc: Canada |
What Axiom subwoofer(s) do you own? EP350 Where do you have the Level, Frequency, Phase, and Subsonic Filter (if applicable) controls set? 12:00 o'clock, bypassed (120), 180, N/A How are you connecting your signal source to the subwoofer (RCA/XLR/High Level)? RCA What receiver/processor/pre-amp/integrated amplifier are you using? Denon 2808 What are you using for your main speakers? M80 Where do you have the crossover frequency and trim levels set in your processor/receiver for your main speakers and your Axiom subwoofer? 80 Hz, Trim was set using spl meter and test tones. Sub trim was adjusted up until the signal going into my Feedback Destroyer was just below clipping at reference Are you using the trigger on your subwoofer? Yes, Great feature! I use the Feedback destroyer for subwoofer EQ. Filters were set using REW. With room gain, I get a response flat down to 21 Hz (no low end boost)
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