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Thanks, Adrian!

Is it a 120Hz or 240Hz model? How do you feel about motion blur (especially during sports) and Soap Opera Effect? Those things are pretty important to me, so I'd need to be able to adjust settings accordingly.

My sense is that I'd want a 240Hz model because of sports, but I honestly don't know if that's a thing or not with newer sets. I recently saw a Vizio on which the SOE was really distracting, but I didn't mess with the TruMotion (or whatever) settings to see if I could tame it.

A major retailer in Ontario is heavily promoting Hisense TVs: "the biggest seller of TVs in China".
They're advertising a 58" 4K TV for just under $2300.

Lg and Samsung still make plasma's. I hate lcd , so I really want to score a 65zt60 before there gone.,<<< not likely. Hopefully someone will still make them though I fear 4K will eliminate them all even though we don't really need 4K.

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My Sammy is a 120hz, Tom. There is some blur on it, keep in mind it's a 2009...I don't know how the newer LED's with 240hz compare but they should be a lot better in that respect. Best thing to do is go to a retailer and make them put a game on, or a fast motion picture(of your choice) to test it.

Well, it looks like the Panasonic VT50 is throwing the Innovator Kuro's buttocks, as to image. If you have a Kuro, you might want to think about promoting it now, because the value will be going down major soon.

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That's my first choice; I'm just spending some time noodling on money I don't have. Part of the hobby.

You know, I kind of forgot that Samsung is still making 64" plasmas. That could be a solution. However, there's no way to know how long THAT will last, either, especially since Samsung is not announcing anything about plasma products at CES this week.

It looks like LG doesn't make any plasmas larger than 60".

I also have to wonder whether either LG or Samsung are manufacturing panels, or whether one or both of them is using plasma panels that originate in a Panasonic factory.

I still have my Sony XBR 52" 120 hz TV as the main. I still sometimes do a jaw drop at how good the picture is when watching sports. Premiere League Soccer or NFL. The only motion blur that I ever encounter is almost always traceable to the quality of the Time Warner signal.

So I gather from this thread that Plasma is still likes more than LCD.

What I don't get is the motion blur part. If you do the math, the screen is updated at 60frames/second, so a full screen repaint is 1/60 of a second. The specs on an IPS screen is 5ms grey to grey, and 14mz white to black. where as a TN screen is closer to the 1ms and 7ms.

And 1ms is 1/1000 of a second, so the screen should be able to transition from any one colour to another colour in far less time than the source material is changing on the screen. (14ms < 60ms)

so these 120hz or 240hz does not make any sense if your source material is only 60hz. Either the TV specs they are giving are in no relation to reality, or the blur that everyone is seeing is on the source material.

For the TV to get 120hz or 240hz and for it to make any sort of difference then the TV is itself making up it's own frames between what the source material is giving it.

Think of it like taking a 128kbs MP3 file and re-encoding it to 320kbs MP3 and telling eveyone that it will sound better. It CAN'T because the data just is not there in the first place.


And, Oh yea. I need to buy a new TV for my room downstairs.

Wait, I don't understand, but I want to.

Are you saying that the frame rate for the native signal we get from "providers" is ALWAYS less than the native frame rate of even a 120Hz TV?