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#401896 - 03/14/14 03:35 PM Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new?
bluray Offline
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Would this be a good starting point for crossover settings in this 5.1 setup?
Front l and r - M100 - 40
Center - VP180 v3 - 60
Rear - M22 v3 - 80
EP800 sub

Or would you take center up to 80 and M100s up to 60?

Amp rated at 500w at 4 ohms


Edited by bluray (03/14/14 03:35 PM)

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#401899 - 03/14/14 05:46 PM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
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Seems sensible to me.
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#401905 - 03/14/14 08:39 PM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
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Shoot, I'd let those front speakers play full range.
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#401908 - 03/14/14 09:43 PM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Shoot, I'd let those front speakers play full range.

I agree.
Balance the subwoofer with the mains by ear and then let 'em rip!
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#401910 - 03/14/14 10:26 PM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
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Blu, it's curious that some owners of nearly full-range speakers and an excellent sub(such as the EP800)are hesitant to set the speakers at say, 80Hz rather than 40Hz. They're concerned about "wasting" a very small part of the speaker frequency range, while not expressing a similar concern about not using as much as half of the sub's range to its best effect.

As long as the sub isn't localized, setting the crossover to a higher number is the way to go, making maximum use of the frequencies it does best both because of inherent design together with the ability to locate it specifically for best reproduction of those frequencies.

A uniform 80Hz crossover is still suggested.
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#401915 - 03/15/14 10:10 AM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
bluray Offline
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Thank you. I am going to split the difference between all of y'all's advice!
M100s at 60 Hz
VP180 and M22s at 80 Hz

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#401924 - 03/15/14 12:46 PM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
exlabdriver Offline
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Audyssey sees both my M22s & VP160 at 40 Hz.

Just to be different from the herd, I run them both at 60 Hz. Works just fine in my modest system...

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#401926 - 03/15/14 01:53 PM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
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actually it is not Audyssey that sets that. smile Audyssey just reports back to the receiver mfg the +3dB point measurement of the speaker in your room during the sweep. Each mfg has a different point at which they set a speaker to small or full range. Some are 40Hz, others are higher.
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#401930 - 03/15/14 03:04 PM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
exlabdriver Offline
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I actually wrote that Audyssey 'sees' (or more correctly hears) my M22s & VP160 as 40 Hz...

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#401940 - 03/16/14 02:42 AM Re: Crossover settings for mix of "old" and new? [Re: bluray]
exlabdriver Offline
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SirQ:

You are probably correct; however, I'm confused after reading your post again.

Am I wrong in thinking that when Audyssey tells my Denon AVR that the -3 Db point is ~40 Hz, it sets the Xover there but also sets them to 'small'? Why is Denon's suggested setting of 40 Hz for supposedly 'small' speakers?

The prevailing wisdom is to then manually set them higher (but never lower). I can see the reasoning for this - to let the subs take on more of the load in the <80 Hz region where they often work better than most mains.

Despite a lot of reading on this subject, I guess that I still don't really have a grasp of this tool...

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