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Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
BobKay #407646 10/14/14 04:53 PM
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Sorry for the misunderstanding, Blair. I have only "the two." I was referring to the 3 HP woofers in each cabinet. I also kept calling them HD's instead of HP's. Alphabet soup. They're both actually---High Power and High Def. Compared to what we've all been accustomed to, these ARE High Definition, for sure.

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No worries, I re-read it a time or two and understood (I think my dyslexia is getting worse)but it was too late to edit my post.



Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
brwsaw #407656 10/15/14 01:26 PM
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Yes, I am about 27" from the front baffle to the rear wall toed in a bit.
I am not putting a speaker 4' into the room that would put it 3 ft in front of the TV and me seated too close to the back wall.
So, acording to BobKay the M80HP is far more above the M80 v3.

Ian mentioned, unless I am using the M80v3 at high volumn I would not notice a difference between the v3 or v4.

Also, according to the specs ( freq) charts, the difference is in the 40 hz region.Which is probably where that kick drum takes place. Now, I wish I had a M80 v3 chart to compare the v3 to the v4 ?

I am down to Keeping my v3 and just find a v3 VP180 and a sub (SVS Plus or EP500 not sure) eventually next summer a second sub or upgrading to M80 v4 HP and a VP180 HP.
The third option is to upgrade to M80v4 and a VP180v4.
hate decisions.
my listening levels are probably 80db movies and maybe 90 db for music

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Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
TroyD #407657 10/15/14 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: TroyD
acording to BobKay the M80HP is far more above the M80 v3.

Ian mentioned, unless I am using the M80v3 at high volumn I would not notice a difference between the v3 or v4.



I look forward to hearing M100's, I'm certain Bob's has no regrets.

I'd assume Ian was commenting on a standard M80V3 vs standard M80V4?

I hate to say anything negative about the M80, it was a nice sounding speaker. I like the HP's better. Will you, or any one else? I can't say.

The tipping point for me was the excellent trade in value which was too good to pass up (a second time).

The subtle improvement and new level of satisfaction is the bonus.


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Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
TroyD #407658 10/15/14 05:27 PM
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Yeh, I think the only difference between the M80v3 and v4 are the crossover and tweeters. And of course the diecast around the woofer drivers but that doesn't change anything.
And the only thing different reallywith the redished tweeter is the heatsink for higher volumn, which doesn't matter to me and the area above 12K which I probably can't hear.
So, I think Ian meant between the v3 and v4 I shouldn't notice any difference. Specially if I am using a sub.

Where I will notice a difference should be in the HP, and only if I am no sub for music and at higher volumns.


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Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
brwsaw #407659 10/15/14 05:34 PM
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You are correct, sir! I have zero regrets. Yes, the tipping point was the trade in value they offered for my 60's. I would still be thoroughly delighted had I paid full price for them. Their value is absurd.

So, do I buy a completely loaded Chevy BelAir 6, or do I get the Impala V8? My Dad always got the BelAir. Don't be my Dad.


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Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
TroyD #407662 10/15/14 07:56 PM
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The thing to keep in mind is what you are looking to get out of your speakers at the end of the day when you turn on the music and listen.

I had a set of M80 v4 speakers and they did sound fantastic. They were night and day better than the older Engergy C3 speakers that I had, regardless of if I used them with or without a sub.

But I ended up getting the much larger and much more expensive LFT1100 (that is your M100 and then some)

What the improvement night and day over the M80s?? NO. Was there an improvement? Yes, and it was enough to take me from smiling about is sounding great, to ear to ear beaming that the sound I was getting was incredible. For me it was worth that extra $3000 more when you start to add in all the costs.

Sometimes the added extra that you are getting is not something that you can point a finger at and say "there it is" sometimes it is the subtle points that trigger something inside you that you can't really say what but as a whole makes it just that much better.

It's the point of diminishing returns where only you can say if that extra bit of money was worth it.


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Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
TroyD #407663 10/15/14 08:07 PM
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Does anybody use the LFT1100's in a home theater setup? So far, it seems to only be used in a stereo mode, from what I've seen here.

Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
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Originally Posted By: oakvillematt
Sometimes the added extra that you are getting is not something that you can point a finger at and say "there it is" sometimes it is the subtle points that trigger something inside...


Yep. This.



Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
CatBrat #407672 10/17/14 12:03 AM
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Does anybody use the LFT1100's in a home theater setup? So far, it seems to only be used in a stereo mode, from what I've seen here.


I do. In my case, it is combined with a VP180HP and some old, cheaper, non-Axiom surrounds that need upgrading. It works VERY well.

Any more questions?

Re: M80 v4 HP vs M100 v4.
TroyD #407673 10/17/14 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: TroyD
Yeh, I think the only difference between the M80v3 and v4 are the crossover and tweeters. And of course the diecast around the woofer drivers but that doesn't change anything.
And the only thing different reallywith the redished tweeter is the heatsink for higher volumn, which doesn't matter to me and the area above 12K which I probably can't hear.
So, I think Ian meant between the v3 and v4 I shouldn't notice any difference. Specially if I am using a sub.

Where I will notice a difference should be in the HP, and only if I am no sub for music and at higher volumns.


Actually when I upgraded from v3 to v4HP, I think the biggest difference I noticed was in the tweeters. This is especially because the difference is pronounced even starting from moderate volumes.

To be clear, the v4 tweeters just flat out sound better than the v3.

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