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#409244 - 01/03/15 10:44 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
terzaghi Offline
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M80s sound better in this large room than they did in my smaller room in our old house. However, the Ep500 does seems to have less impact now in the larger space.
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#409245 - 01/03/15 11:17 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
Gr8_White_North Offline
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If you were to ask me , you cant have enough bass, my neighbors not so much. You have a lot of open space , get your sub a new friend to play with.
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#409247 - 01/04/15 12:45 AM Re: Upgrade? [Re: Gr8_White_North]
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I say go for it with both. More sub is not a bad thing given how open your space is. You may need to dial it back at times, but you want the full effect of lfe on movies.

You could even try a QS4 for your rear surround if you don't want to spend too much.
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#409255 - 01/04/15 06:01 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
terzaghi Offline
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The ep500 has changed significantly since V2 it appears. Anyone compared the two or summarized the changes/ improvements?
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#409256 - 01/04/15 06:27 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
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It is now sealed for starters.

For your Goliath space, you want a ported with the most output you can afford. Sealed units are great (beyond great actually) but they do not possess the dynamic output required for the oodles of cubic ft you need to pressurize. Those magic ports.....

I wish I could recommend sealed (I own 2) but I think it may come up short for you.

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#409257 - 01/04/15 07:08 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
Adrian Offline
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David, re 3 channel amp, personally I believe a 2 channel on your fronts would give you lots of added headroom. Your AVR should easily handle the centre and surrounds without having to power the mains which require the most juice. Have a look at a Crown XLS or similar for the best bang-per-buck.
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#409258 - 01/04/15 07:29 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
terzaghi Offline
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Thought about 2 channel previously when I had a vp150, but since the vp180 is basically the same speaker as an m80 I assjme id want an amp to power all three
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#409297 - 01/06/15 08:00 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
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Definitely add a 2nd sub. Of course, assuming you feel you aren't getting enough bass. Some rooms do really well with one sub, maybe you got lucky. But adding a second sub to our room, which is quite a bit smaller than yours was a major upgrade. I'd also find a way to get those surrounds closer to ear level. I have my qs8's up close to ceiling as well, and they suck. Yup, after years or ignoring the issue, I finally admit it. It's not the speakers, but position. So I'm moving mine to ear level but my room is challenging as well. Since I added M3 ceilings for Atmos, it's just painfully obvious that ceiling mounted QS8's are the wrong way to go.

Besides, getting them lower will make them louder, and easier on your amp too.
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#409501 - 01/15/15 01:29 PM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
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I added a 3rd QS8 for a 6.1 and I can rarely even tell it's there. You don't tend to notice noises coming from behind you.

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#409806 - 01/27/15 05:23 AM Re: Upgrade? [Re: terzaghi]
butcherbme Offline
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That's a large area open to many other rooms, much like mine. I tried an EP500 and wasn't content. I would have need two. I didn't want two so I got a JL Audio f113. That does the job. I see that Axiom has larger subs now so there are options with Axiom. Two subs would work best if you don't mind giving up floor space.
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