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Re: Center channel or surrounds
minorc #409481 01/14/15 01:00 PM
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Not to throw a whole load into this.. but have your thought of getting the better QS8's and then look for a cheep center speaker online to augment? I know that many of the newer movies have moved to using the center channel as a full effect full sound speaker, but for a $25-30 experiment.


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Re: Center channel or surrounds
minorc #409484 01/14/15 02:36 PM
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To just experiment, I would hook up one of the existing M22s for a center channel.

I would vote for upgrading your surrounds to QS8s, and seeing if you can temporarily use one of your M22s for a center channel.


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Re: Center channel or surrounds
minorc #409486 01/14/15 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: minorc
Here is a few pictures of the room for reference;

It is 13.5 x 14.8
I am open to any suggestions, products, placement etc

Main Seating - approx. 8ft from speakers


Hallway view


Facing couch
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I have a potential solution that won't cost anything...
It does mean moving the tv and M80's out, and the seat back a hair, so the M80's are the same distance from the center of the couch as they are each other. This will help, you might not like that you'll lose a bit of the living rooms square footage but I promise you the difference in sound quality will be worth the effort. Try to keep them at least 8' apart on center and 8 feet to your seat. 10'-11'to the seat would be better if its achievable.
Second (I've done it before and it can work well, hear me out)...once the couch position is solidified try moving the M22's up near the front of the arm rest facing the back of the room and toed slightly away from the listener.
Re run your audio calibration or set your levels and you're done.
2 hours tinkering and I'd be willing to bet you won't regret it.
And, in the end, if you do regret it you haven't lost anything but a few hours time.
My $0.02.

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Re: Center channel or surrounds
brwsaw #409505 01/15/15 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: brwsaw


I have a potential solution that won't cost anything...
It does mean moving the tv and M80's out, and the seat back a hair, so the M80's are the same distance from the center of the couch as they are each other. This will help, you might not like that you'll lose a bit of the living rooms square footage but I promise you the difference in sound quality will be worth the effort. Try to keep them at least 8' apart on center and 8 feet to your seat. 10'-11'to the seat would be better if its achievable.
Second (I've done it before and it can work well, hear me out)...once the couch position is solidified try moving the M22's up near the front of the arm rest facing the back of the room and toed slightly away from the listener.
Re run your audio calibration or set your levels and you're done.
2 hours tinkering and I'd be willing to bet you won't regret it.
And, in the end, if you do regret it you haven't lost anything but a few hours time.
My $0.02.


So you're saying to put the speakers close to the armrest pointing backwards and angle them away from the couch?


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Re: Center channel or surrounds
JohnK #409506 01/15/15 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnK


I assume that you have a compelling reason to keep the present diagonal arrangement rather than placing the fronts and TV along the wall to the left.


I am open to moving my components no problem, only issue is the wall isn't straight on that side, it sinks back in halfway through like this...

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I could possibly move it all to the other side of the room, set
up the speakers properly and report back... if only Axiom had my bulk speaker cable smile


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Re: Center channel or surrounds
minorc #409507 01/15/15 09:11 PM
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Yep. Close to the front facing back and to the side +/- 10°.
Or
Move them as far away as you can in roughly the 110° position.
Can't really hurt to try.



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minorc #409509 01/15/15 09:14 PM
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The wall should be a non issue, having a bit or room behind the tower is a good thing. It might make up for the left tower being in front of the window (never know).
Axiom did sell a nice solid black coated wire.I recently seen a clear/black cable on their newest video.



Re: Center channel or surrounds
minorc #409510 01/15/15 09:20 PM
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I ordered some the other day, it is shipping Jan 20 because they're out of stock. frown


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Re: Center channel or surrounds
minorc #409511 01/15/15 09:27 PM
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How about something like this.



In this scenario using proper surrounds would be the way to go?

Thanks again guys, you're awesome!


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Re: Center channel or surrounds
minorc #409513 01/15/15 09:46 PM
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Just did the trade. A set of QS8's ordered.

Woo hoo


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