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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411067 03/24/15 04:33 PM
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Not to derail the conversation, but really looking forward to my VP180 arriving in June (paying off an installment plan). Working to finish the room up in the mean time. Here's the future home of my center channel. My father owns a 10 year old VP150 on my recommendation, and we've enjoyed it quite a bit. But, I do expect the new 180V4 to be an upgrade.



That's a DIY SilverFire (slighted modified, extra white) screen currently covered up behind. Shelves are on the side walls for film collectibles (mostly LOTR & StarWars).


Re: Vp 180 center
DrStrangeQuark #411083 03/25/15 03:54 AM
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Nice! Did you spray or roll the screen?


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Re: Vp 180 center
fredk #411092 03/25/15 02:37 PM
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Nice! Did you spray or roll the screen?


Thanks! Rolled the undercoat (Kilz2) and sprayed the silverfire.

Here's a writeup on my experience.

Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411121 03/26/15 05:51 AM
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Sorry, I was hoping you could confirm did you check the polarity visually or did you swap the cable ends and listen?



Re: Vp 180 center
brwsaw #411135 03/26/15 08:04 PM
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Swap......speaker sounded like playing from a tin can.....so polarity was correct


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411136 03/26/15 08:18 PM
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I think I'm goin to reboot/reset Denon AVR .......maybe applying filters from 150 even though Audyssey is off???? Can't hurt
I'll report back later


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411329 04/08/15 02:31 AM
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After about a week of only listening to the 180 I went back to the switch , demoing everything I could find, BD concerts ( biggest gap), numerous demo worthy Bd movie scenes ( subtle gap ....sometimes, content dependent) ...... So at that point it was getting to be a little frustrating, as I anticipated a night and day difference when I ordered the VP 180
So tonight I disconnected my left front M80 TI and ran the centres thru Avr front left,put on some CDs and ran 2.1 stereo with 150 on top of 180 both horizontal and one m80ti on right and one sub
WOW NOW I HEAR a night and day difference between 150 and 180....makes sense if sending more sound than in bd movies to center...
This leads me to a few Q's
Am I having issues with my Avr center ?
Possible set up( still not using audessey and Xovers at 60 hz on front stage)?
My demo material may not have enough center channel info?
Or with my ears in my space ....subtle maybe All I will get most times

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Velodyne 15"/ Dbox 12"
ps4 benq w1070 -grand view 106" FF



Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411445 04/16/15 08:52 PM
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Well,I'm past my 30 day "free trial",and have decided to keep the VP 180 for a few reasons
When I compared the 150 to the 180 for most movie scenes/tv watching etc....it was a very close but usually favoured the 180....subtle... ( but I was usually using scenes that the 150 sounded good in ?)
So I found a few scenes that the 150 struggled with ( being a bit too forward.....), and the 180 just played them.....not really drawing any attention to itself ( more laid back and natural....) for this reason alone I'm keeping it .
also on most BD concerts the 180 sounds better,and I think after trying both centres hooked up to left front of AVR it proved the 180 is a much better speaker and as more content gets sent to center channel the 180 will increase the gap
But for now as a center channel I have to say it is a upgrade, but a subtle one.
Thanks guys for all your input....and Patience with me

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ps4 benq w1070 -grand view 106" FF



Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411450 04/17/15 02:54 AM
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I heard the 160 at Jason's place and it blew my 150 out of the water.


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411452 04/17/15 03:34 AM
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Yeah, my VP180 blew my VP150 out of the water, even more so when I added some acoustical treatments to my room. Even so, I am still surprised that in some instances it was only subtly better.


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