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Re: AVS
brwsaw #411465 04/18/15 01:16 AM
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There is a thread for the new Emotiva XMC-1 on AVScience and the guys there are pretty good but the speaker forum has some really winners in it.

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Gr8_White_North #411466 04/18/15 01:26 AM
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Pre-amps, Receivers, Processors, power amps ... etc ... "usually" have less fighting than speakers and subwoofers.

The exception to this is if you start a thread about the audible differences between Pre-amps, Receivers, Power amps ... etc ... grin

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brwsaw #411467 04/18/15 01:36 AM
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I go to AVS only for DIY theater build threads, acoustical treatment information, and the custom printed acoustical panel thread. I stay clear of the rest because someone, as mentioned before, always has an agenda.


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brwsaw #411474 04/18/15 01:44 PM
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I still cannot be bothered to engage with anyone (on this site, or any other) that wants to argue. Why waste the energy? I remember the old saying "never wrestle with a pig, only the pig will enjoy it, you both will get dirty and nobody will be able to tell the two of you apart"....

Let those people have their opinions, you are never going to have them acknowledge and believe your point of view.

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BBIBH #411475 04/18/15 02:30 PM
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BBIBH - I stopped bothering with AVS in 2011, and the only time I even see a thread there is through a link as provided by exlabdriver.

I tend to agree with you about arguing with "opinions" as made, but when people post "facts" such as the claim that "Axiom does not have accurate measurements" when Axiom has as accurate a measuring protocol as one will find in the industry, it is prudent to point out the complete inaccuracy of the "facts" as presented.

If someone posts "I listened to ABX speaker, and hated it", that's opinion, and not an issue with which one should argue.

The forums used to be a lot more fun, and a lot more friendly. Ten years ago, if one posted something on the speakers or subwoofers section on AVS, and no one else posted in that thread, two hours later, the thread would be on page 3.

Today, two DAYS later, it's often still on page one, because the forum world just does not draw an audience as it once did.

And that is the issue - nice people are being driven away from the forum world because a few on line bullies want to control the narrative, and nice people have better things to do than be "yelled at" for saying he/she likes Axiom, Aperion ... or even Bose.

We need more people having fun in the world of audio. We need more GTG's again.

We used to have GTG's where 4 or 5 different companies would have speakers present, and they were a LOT of fun. Blind testing would be done, and guys would often pick speakers or subs from another company instead of what they owned, even though the speakers they owned were there.

We did one at my place in 2005, comparing an Axiom EP-500 to an SVS PB-12 Ultra. There were about 12 guys on the "listening panel", with (if memory serves) 6 SVS owners, 3 Axiom owners and 3 who owned other products.

Five of the six SVS owners picked the Axiom sub, while 2 of the 3 Axiom owners picked the SVS sub as his "favorite", but in each case by a very small margin

Everyone had a great time, and the only consensus was that blind listening was useful, and the differences between the SVS sub and the Axiom sub were VERY minor.

As I am no longer a "company owner", and am back to this as a hobby (woo hoo!!), look for a fun GTG at my place this fall.

Everyone here will be invited. smile

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craigsub #411477 04/18/15 03:02 PM
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Craig. I strongly agree with your assessment of forums and participation. I see the same thing for other hobbies I participate in.

Personally I think it is in large part poor forum management.


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brwsaw #411483 04/18/15 05:27 PM
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Fred, who said that you were allowed to have other hobbies?


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brwsaw #411485 04/18/15 06:12 PM
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Hobbies are only to be discussed on these boards. No other boards are required.


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brwsaw #411487 04/18/15 06:23 PM
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I only started posting elsewhere a couple of years ago because over time I could not stomach the unadulterated BS that had been continually spewed out by a few for several years. Because they were mostly never challenged by anyone, questionable 'opinions' eventually morphed into erroneous 'facts' & the bandwagon started. It still continues today but thankfully in a much diminished fashion.

I believed that counterpoints were needed to provide a more balanced view so I stepped in & of course took a lot of flack from the herd. I wish that this drivel would just go away to allow me to occasionally post helpful stuff instead of needlessly sparring with those who should know better.

Stalwart reviews in HTS have certainly helped turn things around, but unfortunately facts rarely change opinions, especially misguided ones...

TAM

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exlabdriver #411488 04/18/15 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: exlabdriver
I only started posting elsewhere a couple of years ago because over time I could not stomach the unadulterated BS that had been continually spewed out by a few for several years. Because they were mostly never challenged by anyone, questionable 'opinions' eventually morphed into erroneous 'facts' & the bandwagon started. It still continues today but thankfully in a much diminished fashion.

I believed that counterpoints were needed to provide a more balanced view so I stepped in & of course took a lot of flack from the herd. I wish that this drivel would just go away to allow me to occasionally post helpful stuff instead of needlessly sparring with those who should know better.
Stalwart reviews in HTS have certainly helped turn things around, but unfortunately facts rarely change opinions, especially misguided ones...

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I still believe most guys on AVs mean no harm ,there are however a few that need a new hobby....or a couch !


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