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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411818 04/28/15 04:22 PM
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Boy, you guys are keen.

I hate moving my speakers an inch, especially the EP-800s, ha!

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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411821 04/28/15 07:16 PM
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well, I gave up my movie room location to my teen daughter ;( for a new bedroom ...not sure why, just more area for mess ......

So Currently my gear is in the living room and not the best for acoustics. I would like for him to here a closer version to the Version 4 so Lawrence can really see the difference in sound.

I mentioned that a few years back some would put a resistor in line with the tweeters to tone them down a bit. Pretty sure SirQuack or Mark J knows about this and could help remember


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Re: Vp 180 center
TroyD #411853 04/30/15 10:16 AM
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[quote=TroyD]Yes, Lawrence it was nice to meet you ..
I really liked the 180, but it was nice to hear the whole front three Mi's and really see the difference.
I think and could be wrong in that going with the Mi 80's and the v4 180 is probably a big gap"

Yes there certainly is a difference the M80 ti's are more forward and the
VP 180 v4 more laid back.....I wonder how much of this ,is the speaker design vs version??? Maybe someone from Axiom can comment on this?
Also initially I thought the vp180 was a bit too laid back ,but now I find it fine as my ears are getting more time with it( (12 years with the 150...) and I'm now hearing more of a difference between the two......enough that I couldn't give the 180 up at this point,but the difference between Ti's and V4 M80's maybe in my future....Still really like my Ti's BTW.......BUT definetly not a timbre match with the new 180 ......but ok for now

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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411856 04/30/15 03:42 PM
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I'm in the same boat. Technically I should be saving money for other things right now, but I have had the upgrade bug. If anything for curiosity. I have all TI's in my theater and wonder if an upgrade would be worth it. Then there's the do I really need towers anymore in a HT? with Atmos and DSX you start to wonder if all identical directional speakers would work better i.e bookshelves and dual subs. It seems if I did upgrade, it'll have to be all or nothing as the difference between TI and V4 could be a lot.

I have never liked my VP150Ti as much as the rest. Especially since it fell down and tore my freakin 120" screen. Then there's the fact that new 80's are over 2 grand now which is much more than they were 10 years ago, and now your into other manufacture's price range aka SVS. Axiom has been good to me but you wonder if the grass is greener over there sometimes. I'm just rambling.

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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411857 04/30/15 05:59 PM
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I hear you newf.

the biggest reason I went with the M80's was for the music content I do watch. I just prefer the Sat/Sub for movies. I just feel its a waste of speaker if I am crossing over at 80 and setting the M80's to small anyways.
I had the MK700MKII and the Axiom M22. I really, really like the MK's Clarity and detail is awesome.
I am two/three years away from building the movie room and am really going to look at going back to sat/sub. Except this time 4 subs. I am thinking my room is not going to be as big as I thought, now that I used it for my daughters bedroom. It is going to be around 1600sq/ft.
I may keep the M80's upstairs and go with sat/subs for movies with the room that size.

The other thing is yes, I found that too in the pricing of Axiom. I know they need to compete and make the best $$ they can, but a few years ago they were atleast %25 cheaper if not more than any decent speakers. example was Paradigm Studio's 60/100's. The 60's are $1995 here and $3000. the M80's were $1300.
Axiom cakewalks over the Studio 60's anyday plus they were $700 cheaper. Now they Studio 100's is a different story, I don't quite think my M80v3 were as good sounding, but at $1700 cheaper hell yeh. Now, to compete with the 100's I believe you have to goto the M80HP if not the M100.
The M100 in standard finish ( not near as good as the Studio's ) are the same price. If you match the finish, they cost more. If you go the M80HP they are $500 cheaper, but if you match the finish they cost the same.
I have not heard the M800HP so cannot tell how close they are, but, it now gives me the option to open the door to even look at the others.
The only thing I see is the M22's are still a bargain. If I go the MK950 route that's $2100 tx incl. if I go the M22 and a VP160 I save $800 , but again it maybe that the extra $800 is worth the sound quality.


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411866 04/30/15 09:03 PM
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I have had cheaper Paradigms before, I think they have always been seriously overpriced. They gotten quite full of themselves over the years.


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411915 05/03/15 09:35 PM
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In trying to get the vp180 v4 to play nice with the M80 ti's ,I just want to mention I have tried port plugs on vp180 in misc configurations (1,2 and 3 ports plugged)and did not like any of them...
Too much of the low end was takin away........
Anyone upgrade m80 ti's to V4? What difference did you notice?any other details would be great


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411918 05/04/15 01:26 AM
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Hey if you want, this week come get these M80v3 for a week you can borrow them. I still have my boxes, I just cannot get two in the car. My Pro/Pro won't be here until next Monday. There not version 4 but they close as you can get, not a heck of a lot of difference


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411926 05/04/15 10:13 AM
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That's very generous of you Troy, but I think I'll wait til next fall and may demo the V4 from axiom ( it will be worth the return shipping $100 if I choose not to keep them)
Thanks again Troy


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Re: Vp 180 center
theskins #411962 05/05/15 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: theskins
In trying to get the vp180 v4 to play nice with the M80 ti's ,I just want to mention I have tried port plugs on vp180 in misc configurations (1,2 and 3 ports plugged)and did not like any of them...
Too much of the low end was takin away........
Anyone upgrade m80 ti's to V4? What difference did you notice?any other details would be great

Also would like to note on the 150 vs 180 at reference volume there is defineltly a larger gap on MOST ,if not all material.....(my normal listening is -10 to -15 db and reference being 0)
Wow have my ears been adjusted or is there really speaker break in?

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