![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: No sub to EP500 results. AND BIRCH SYRUP!!
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Can I put the syrup on my EP500?
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![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: No sub to EP500 results. AND BIRCH SYRUP!!
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Only if you want your cats stuck to it.
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![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: No sub to EP500 results. AND BIRCH SYRUP!!
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Ahh the Bacon, don't forget the bacon
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![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) No sub to EP500 results, BIRCH SYRUP! or EP800?
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I am wondering.. would you go with a pair of EP500's or just a single EP800?
On the plus side, a pair of EP500's will probably give you a better or more even spread of sound. As the units are smaller, they gain the WAF as you can decordate/(hide) it into the room far more easier.
On the other side, the EP800 does do 12hz. Now, I know that the super deep base is more of a visceral thing and not something you get in listening to music. But in some of the movies, getting that supper deep base might be rather cool.
Last edited by oakvillematt; 06/29/15 07:33 PM.
Anthem: AVM60, Fosi DAC-Q5 Axiom: ADA1500, LFR1100 Actiive, QS8, EP500, M3, M3comp, M5
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![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: No sub to EP500 results, BIRCH SYRUP! or EP800?
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Pair 500s for sure. Just wait. You'll be happy with your size room.
You will dig 3-4 hz lower than 18hz when paired in room. Similar paired subs were tested at HTshack flat to 9hz at 90db. 18hz is where mine start to make noise. Below that is just tactile gravy.
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![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: No sub to EP500 results, or EP800? worth it?
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I don't know if it's a case of buyers remorse or what. I am really agonizing over the decision to order the EP500's. I am sure that they will sound good. I really can't appreciate what or how much they will bring to the table until I get them I guess. But it is quite a bit of money.
When I got the M80 speakers, they were really exceptional. I later after listening and talking with others traded them in for the LFR1100. I never had them side by side so I can't tell if one of them sounded better than the other. I am sure there was an improvement but then again, is it just psyco-acoustics were i spent more so they must be better.
I am well in driving distance to visit Axiom. I am wondering if it is worth the trip up and see if I can do a blind listening test for the M80 vs LFR1100 and with/without the EP500 in the mix.
How much does adding a sub improve the sound?
Craigsub - You have the M100 and M50 and an EP800. I know this is not part of your listening test, but I'd love to hear you thoughts of the M100 vs M50 with the big EP800 running with both of them. Does the big sub kill of any sound gain the larger M100 has over the M50??
I need to get this worry under control about spending the cash on the subs.
Last edited by oakvillematt; 07/04/15 12:57 PM.
Anthem: AVM60, Fosi DAC-Q5 Axiom: ADA1500, LFR1100 Actiive, QS8, EP500, M3, M3comp, M5
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![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: No sub to EP500 results, or EP800? worth it?
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I have not heard Axiom subs. I owned paired polk psw10s. Then "upgraded" to a velodyne eq-max 12 and finally ended up with paired svs sb12-nsd subs. (currently called sb-2000.) Enter the room lock era. I cant see any upgraditis happening anymore. Even the paired polks were a noticable improvement in the bass dept over running my towers full range. If you get the 500s set up properly you should attain the "super speaker" experience Craig mentioned. Dont sweat it Matt. ![smile smile](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Room lock awaits you. ![grin grin](/boards/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) Whats that? You'll see.....
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"I am well in driving distance to visit Axiom. I am wondering if it is worth the trip up and see if I can do a blind listening test for the M80 vs LFR1100 and with/without the EP500 in the mix."
Absolutely go and visit Axiom. This is a big investment and you'll put your mind at ease whatever you decide. Ian and Co are wonderfull hosts and you can tour the facility. We won't even mention the scenery in the area...
Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.
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I haven't heard the M50 but I know that an M22 with a sub is not the same as an M80 - not even close! Whether you have an M80, M100, LFR100 or Model T, a sub is a whole new experience.
House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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![](/boards/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: No sub to EP500 results.
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Though I have an ep500, I haven't done the listening tests that would help me answer your questions from my own experience. From my reading on audio, I've concluded that (1) everyone needs a sub, (2) several moderate quality subs of varying types in various positions are better than one big sub. Accordingly, I have 3 lesser subs, now, and since my ep500 is ailing a bit, I've just decided to retire her.
Last edited by GregLee; 07/04/15 04:22 PM.
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