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It solves my current weakness of really only playing music inside or outside right now.
What other choices do the rest of us have?  Edit: I knew what you meant, Andy!
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Re: AxiomAir
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Do want. But I can't justify the expense at the moment.
I'm with Murph, though. I am still using a Squeezebox and definitely looking for some other method for streaming. So a unit with the Pi and DAC is very interesting.
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It solves my current weakness of really only playing music inside or outside right now.
What other choices do the rest of us have? Edit: I knew what you meant, Andy! I was thinking that a lot of people have Sonos, or Sonos style, setups where music is synced across multiple portable speakers or portable amps. I'm sure some of these people must use the technology outside.
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Ian. Are we going to get the system specs for the new air at some point like we have for all your other speakers? ie, the SPL freq resp graph and +/-3 db range?
I had a good chuckle as Sonos when someone on their forum asked about the frequency response for the Play 5 and was told by one of the company reps:
You're correct, we don't post those specifics. We've found that in most cases with multiple, independently amplified speakers all contained in one unit a simple frequency measurement isn't going to give you a very good idea on how it sounds. We encourage everyone to listen for themselves and make their minds up.
I just think to Dr. Floyd Toole, and well, frequency graphs do give you an idea as to how the speaker will sound.
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Ian. Are we going to get the system specs for the new air at some point like we have for all your other speakers? ie, the SPL freq resp graph and +/-3 db range?
I had a good chuckle as Sonos when someone on their forum asked about the frequency response for the Play 5 and was told by one of the company reps:
You're correct, we don't post those specifics. We've found that in most cases with multiple, independently amplified speakers all contained in one unit a simple frequency measurement isn't going to give you a very good idea on how it sounds. We encourage everyone to listen for themselves and make their minds up.
I just think to Dr. Floyd Toole, and well, frequency graphs do give you an idea as to how the speaker will sound. Just look at an Axiom M3 frequency response graph. That's basically what it is. It would be measuring the same tweeter and the same 6.5' drive unit that is in the Air (same crossover etc). The only thing that should differ greatly is below the Schroeder frequency. The specs state the same frequency response but with the larger box of the ported M3 bookshelf, the amplitude it can put out at the low end should be greater than the Air.
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Just look at an Axiom M3 frequency response graph. That's basically what it is. It would be measuring the same tweeter and the same 6.5' drive unit that is in the Air (same crossover etc). The only thing that should differ greatly is below the Schroeder frequency. The specs state the same frequency response but with the larger box of the ported M3 bookshelf, the amplitude it can put out at the low end should be greater than the Air.
I don't think so as it's all packaged in a completely different shaped box with a different orientation of the speakers. If what you said was true, then the upper part of the graphs would all be identical between the M2, M3, M22. They are not.
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Just look at an Axiom M3 frequency response graph. That's basically what it is. It would be measuring the same tweeter and the same 6.5' drive unit that is in the Air (same crossover etc). The only thing that should differ greatly is below the Schroeder frequency. The specs state the same frequency response but with the larger box of the ported M3 bookshelf, the amplitude it can put out at the low end should be greater than the Air.
I don't think so as it's all packaged in a completely different shaped box with a different orientation of the speakers. If what you said was true, then the upper part of the graphs would all be identical between the M2, M3, M22. They are not. I don't think it would be measured as a stereo pair. The upper parts of the graph between the models are different probably because of the use of different configurations, crossover point between the midrange/woofer and HF unit, crossover slope etc. I think all these factors would have an impact on the summed frequency response.
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On the kickstarter Q/A it was posted Our DAC module is based on the 32bit/384kHz capable PCM5102A from Ti. We have put a significant amount of effort into designing extremely low noise analog power supplies and isolating the DAC from noise generated by the Pi. but Andrew posted on CanukAudioMart There is a dedicated, high quality DAC capable of high resolution files up to 24bit/192kHz in the AxiomAir. It uses ultra low noise analog power supplies and is connected to the Pi via I2S. This is a far better method than using a USB DAC as the Pi has some bus limitations that compromise it for audio use. Not to pick fault, but what DAC are we getting. I'd rather have the 32/384 PCM5102A unit.. or is it that but in real integration in the system, it will only run at 24/192?
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Hi Matt,
The DAC is theoretically capable of 32bit/384kHz, but our current implementation is only stable up to 24bit/192kHz. We are continuing to test even higher resolutions, but until we start to see available material at higher resolutions become commonplace it will be fairly low on the priority list.
Thanks,
Andrew
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Only 11 more left of the original 200 ($475 pledge) and then some of the multiple buys. I find it very interesting to see how pledges seem to pop up every so often. You will get a spurt and have 3-4 new ones added, then it may be 3-4 hours then another pops up.
Anthem: AVM60, Fosi DAC-Q5
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