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#414386 - 09/05/15 10:36 PM Question about EP600 v3 sub
phishfan Offline
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i'm new to the forum, and I'm hoping someone can help me out regarding the EP600 v3 sub. I have an opportunity to purchase one in near mint condition for $900.00 locally. can someone give me their opinion on this sub? there is very little reviews from actual users online. I've also researched trying to find out how many watts it is?? thanks for any info!

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#414388 - 09/06/15 09:56 AM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: phishfan]
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From what I have gathered here, the v3 sub were ported. The v4 is not. I believe that the unit has the same 500w amp except the layout of the v3 is different and it has an XLR in that also take the 1/4" phono plug.

I have a pair of the EP500v4 and they can easily shake the whole room. I has some sub test sounds that pan up from 10hz to 80hz and the whole room shakes if you play it too loud.

I have not heard any of the v3 subs from Axiom so I cannot comment on how they sound. my v4 is very subtle in sound and paired up with my tower speakers, you really don't realize that they are there.
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#414389 - 09/06/15 12:38 PM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: phishfan]
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Thanks for the reply. I can't find much info on them as far as any for sale. I'm not sure what to pay , but half of retail seems good though.

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#414391 - 09/06/15 01:31 PM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: phishfan]
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I have an older V2 600. I love it. It's the sub I use for a 4.1 channel system in my great room (28X32). Fills it up nicely.

Axiom subs do not get much praise. I think it's price driven more than anything. There are several other options for subs at similar, or lower price points, so those are the subs folks tend to migrate towards.
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#414452 - 09/11/15 11:05 PM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: michael_d]
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Originally Posted By michael_d

Axiom subs do not get much praise. I think it's price driven more than anything. There are several other options for subs at similar, or lower price points, so those are the subs folks tend to migrate towards.

My thoughts exactly although earlier versions of subs had that port chuff issue. I haven't heard any later sub versions to see if it has been curtailed.
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#414453 - 09/11/15 11:12 PM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: phishfan]
exlabdriver Offline
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It was cured on my EP800s - there is no port, ha!!

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#414502 - 09/15/15 08:46 AM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: chesseroo]
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Originally Posted By chesseroo

My thoughts exactly although earlier versions of subs had that port chuff issue. I haven't heard any later sub versions to see if it has been curtailed.


I must be tone deaf, cuase I never heard this "port chuff" you speak of in any of my ported Axiom subs (two 500's and the 600). I think some folks spend way too much time trying to come up with crap to bitch about with respect to speakers and subs.

The new 500's I'm using do sound 'different' than the old ones. More precise, tighter, but that's about it.

I still love my 600.
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#414505 - 09/15/15 12:03 PM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: michael_d]
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When we tried the EP500 and EP600 here in 2006, one thing we could not do was get any audible chuffing from either.

And look for a test of the new Reaction Audio Gamma 18 directly against the EP800. The Gamma 18 uses a single 18 inch driver with about a 30 mm "throw" on it. The owners of Reaction Audio know we will be conducting level matched, blind tests between the two subs, and are fine with this.

The Gamma 18 sells for $1200 shipped, so it's a lot less money than the EP800.

Several other subwoofer manufacturers were asked to participate, and never even bothered to respond.

While this thread was not about a subwoofer comparison, it's possible that, based on posts here, people will be interested in the results of such a test.

I know of no other review source that can level match two subs and do instant A/B switching between them at line levels.
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#414510 - 09/15/15 10:30 PM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: michael_d]
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Originally Posted By michael_d
Originally Posted By chesseroo

My thoughts exactly although earlier versions of subs had that port chuff issue. I haven't heard any later sub versions to see if it has been curtailed.


I must be tone deaf, cuase I never heard this "port chuff" you speak of in any of my ported Axiom subs (two 500's and the 600). I think some folks spend way too much time trying to come up with crap to bitch about with respect to speakers and subs.

The new 500's I'm using do sound 'different' than the old ones. More precise, tighter, but that's about it.

I still love my 600.

The port chuff is an OLD topic; way pre-EP500 years when the EP500 was barely a dream twinkle in Ian's eye.
When they brought out the EP500 it had a new wide mouth port on it which i figured was a 'test' of a new design considering the noise the old EP350 ports were producing.

I can dig up the old threads somewhere i'm sure.
The port chuff was simply an excess and fast volume of air leaving the port creating turbulence that sounded like lips farting. I could easily re-create the sound with various heavy bass movie scenes. The sound was not evident when testing with other subs including a SVS.

The EP350 is still in use but it now has extra internal baffle material over the inside port hole to reduce the air flow. It improved the reduction of port chuff, but not eliminated.

Long since that time have i been thinking about replacing the EP350 with something else.
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#414519 - 09/16/15 11:55 AM Re: Question about EP600 v3 sub [Re: phishfan]
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Oh, thanks Chess.

I have no idea what 95% of the audiophile terms and jargon mean anyway. Don't really care either I suppose... Something either sounds good to me or it doesn't. I’ve had a V1 500, V2 600, V3 500, and now a pair of the V4 500’s. For music, I just like the way the 600 sounds. Better than all the others. The V4 500’s are my favorite for movies, and they do OK for music too….

I have the 600 crossed at 60, and my floor speakers have some pretty good sized drivers (Wharfdale Opus2-2). I have a set of M80Ti’s that I have in this room as well. They are for 4-channel stereo, and surround channels when watching the boob tube. Between the four tower speakers and the 600 in this room, there is no lack of anything.
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