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Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414824 10/05/15 10:13 PM
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Andrew Jones is now working with Elac. Should be interesting!


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Re: ELAC speakers
BuddTX #414828 10/06/15 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted By BuddTX
ELAC and Axiom Audio?
I realize this is an old thread, but I am watching this YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV4sxDhyatc

At 6:08, they mention that in the Late 70's and early 80's they got into the speaker business, and they partnered with "AXIOM Electroacoustic Speaker Specialists".
http://elac.us/aboutelac/

Is that this Axiom?

Just wondering.


No. That was an outfit in Germany.


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Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414829 10/06/15 08:57 AM
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He bailed when Onkyo took over Pioneer. I havent heard his high end designs, but the Pioneers were pretty lackluster.


Here he is talking about his move to ELAC and his new designs. Sales call podcast.


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Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414832 10/06/15 12:45 PM
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It's interesting you say the Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers are lackluster. I heard the bookshelves a number of times at different venues, including my own home, and was very impressed.

A few weeks ago, I brought them into my new space to compare against my Dreamcatchers. The big problem with my Dreamcatchers is they can't handle higher SPLs for those songs when I just HAVE to turn it up. So I was really hoping the Pioneers, being quite a bit larger and more favorably reviewed and measured, would do the trick. The Pioneers are exemplary on the test bench; the Totems not so much.

The Pioneers were indeed fuller and achieved higher SPLs and I could not bottom them out but they sounded very "thick". I thought it was just me so I left them in place for a week and had a few buddies over to get their opinions. There was no contest actually. Right from the get-go, everyone preferred the Totems. Much wider and more distinct soundstage and microdynamics.

So I do agree they sound lackluster but then again, they can be had for $100/pair compared to $600 or more for the Totems. I really do wonder what Andrew Jones could have achieved by integrating a better tweeter into the design.

Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414835 10/06/15 04:49 PM
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Dennis Murphy has some mod that he sells, where he changes out the tweeter and modifies the crossover of the Andrew jones pioneer speakers.

Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414839 10/06/15 08:32 PM
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For the price they are great speakers. But when you're used to something special, as you are Mojo, they seem pretty lackluster.

I would agree with your "thick" description of their sound. They lacked air and sounded a little ho hum.

Not a knock against him, as Andrew's TAD reference one speakers got an A rating in Stereophile. They are supposed to be among the greatest ever made. I think they were $45k or so....... smile

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Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414840 10/06/15 10:26 PM
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That's exactly right! They lacked air and sounded ho hum.


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Re: ELAC speakers
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Originally Posted By BuddTX
Dennis Murphy has some mod that he sells, where he changes out the tweeter and modifies the crossover of the Andrew jones pioneer speakers.


Hmmmm...I didn't see those on his site. He seems like a very interesting fellow.


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Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414849 10/07/15 06:24 PM
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I do not know where the link is for the Dennis Murphy modified speakers are on his web site, but here is a DIY version of the Pioneer speakers with the modification that Dennis Mruphy performs:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.p...cations.610820/

Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414854 10/07/15 08:01 PM
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Wow! Thank you so much. I'll pass this on to my buddy. I am sure he will take advantage of it.


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