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Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414859 10/08/15 01:26 PM
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The Pioneers were indeed fuller and achieved higher SPLs and I could not bottom them out but they sounded very "thick".


I had a similar experience. I use Axioms (M22s) for my music system, but I had some H/K satellites for my theater system. So given the price I figured it couldn't hurt to try the Pioneer bookshelves. At first they sounded much better, but after just a little exposure I heard that "think" sound. Still an improvement, and I can crank them, but I'm looking forward to converting the larger room and I can swap in some M80s.

Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414860 10/08/15 05:58 PM
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Did you have a chance to compare the Pioneers against the M22s? What version by the way?


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Re: ELAC speakers
mpyw #414862 10/08/15 07:31 PM
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Did you have a chance to compare the Pioneers against the M22s? What version by the way?


I never did an A/B comparison in the same room. But listening to them in their respective rooms it's not even close, there's absolutely zero chance that I'd think the Pioneers are anywhere close to the Axioms.

I believe I have the v3's.

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mpyw #414901 10/10/15 05:02 PM
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I have to added an addendum to my answer comparing Axiom M22s to Pioneer BS22s (and I don't think any Axiomites will be surprised).

I was hopping around listening to different kinds of material on both of the speakers yesterday and was reminded that when listening to poorly recorded older material the Axioms bring out the worst in the recording. Some old rock and blues sounded particularly bad. But it's not the genre, I also listened to some recently recorded blues (Keb Mo) and it sounded fantastic.

So if older recordings are a large part of your mix, you may want to add other candidates to your list. (I still don;t think the Pioneers would be my choice.)

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