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Re: 2016 Academy Awards
exlabdriver #417499 03/08/16 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted By exlabdriver
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Having said all of that, the whole point is moot. There are dire situations that are looming on this planet - economic, political, ethnic, & religious turmoil along with over population - that will render Climate Change to be a very minor player, if at all.

I wouldn't worry about it...

TAM

The sum of the whole is much nastier than its individual parts. It all adds up to a big mess eventually. That said, you tell Pacific islanders who's homes are slowly disapearing beneath the waves that climate change is minor. Its a matter of perspective.


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Re: 2016 Academy Awards
Lampshade #417505 03/08/16 03:08 AM
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Yes, it is a matter of perspective; however, I live at about 15' ASL within 150 yards of the Pacific Ocean & have observed over 20 years no such changes here. I heard a radio commentator 2 days ago who has been living on a beach in The Bahamas for the past 51 winters. His observations, although not scientific, are the same as mine. Nothing has appreciably changed in his little part of the world.

Back to the chart, I wish that someone could explain the 8 red humps above the norm 15C when humans were few & far between. Just using common sense & reasoning, I'd say that it is normal warming cycling followed each time shown by blue dips of cooler periods.

Now if that chart is wrong (perhaps as accurate as the infamous hockey stick chart), then maybe I'm full of crap & so are those who authored it; however, it won't alter my beliefs, ha!

TAM

Re: 2016 Academy Awards
Lampshade #417508 03/08/16 09:44 AM
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You really gotta see the doc. Merchants of doubt. Very interesting.

Re: 2016 Academy Awards
Lampshade #417515 03/08/16 03:48 PM
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And as we all know, anecdotal evidence is much more accurate than scientific evidence. Because the scientists are out to get... something? Grant money? Or something?


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Re: 2016 Academy Awards
Lampshade #417521 03/08/16 04:28 PM
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If that's for me you just gotta watch it. Not like a Michael Moore thing.

Re: 2016 Academy Awards
Lampshade #417523 03/08/16 06:13 PM
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Searching that stalwart (not!) IPCC outfit in the UN, I just came across this article that shows the disparity in thought & conclusions by 2 opposing groups of supposed experts/scientists. Worth a read (2 pages):

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/201...e/#328960395097

After reading that, how is the layman supposed to make an informed opinion? I saw on the news last night that this winter (year?) in NA was the warmest on record whereas there is another study that says that there has been no temperature increase in the past 18 years. What the hell?? Again, I have to conclude that no one really knows on either side & if they claim that they do, then they are highly suspect.

I don't trust either side of the argument as being correct or truthful; however, I vehemently distrust our touchy-feely politicians who have their grubby hands on our purse strings - a purse that is already largely empty...

TAM

Re: 2016 Academy Awards
Lampshade #417526 03/08/16 08:51 PM
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I read your link. I feel bad. It's like hearing about someone scammed by a foreign lottery phone call. You really need to watch the doc. At this point it is important.

The NIPCC is not a legitimate organization. At all.....

Hate movies? Here is the book.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1608193942?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

I hope this doesn't come off too high and mighty. I don't mean it that way at all. Whenever I encounter someone with these views I feel obligated to help them. This doc is the most concise and professional way I have encountered yet. I sincerely hope a few people are curious enough to watch it. It is not a junk youtube sensationalized hype thing. Not even close. If you think I'm being an ass watch the doc, you will understand.

Please watch it. wink I'm done now. Reset to speaker nerd mode. lol.

Re: 2016 Academy Awards
AAAA #417528 03/08/16 10:08 PM
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And the award for most hijacked thread goes to...

"Climate Change!"

Accepting the award will be Planet Earth, who managed just fine without people for billions of years and is seriously considering a return to those good ol' days.


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Re: 2016 Academy Awards
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Considering that the IPCC is a 'legitimate' organization, it certainly has a checkered & controversial past.

With the best of intentions, I checked out the link for the book & was greeted with this endorsement:

"Anyone concerned about the state of democracy in America should read this book.” — Former Vice President Al Gore, author of An Inconvenient Truth.

Therefore, I think that I'll pass. Enuff said on this sordid subject.

So has anyone seen any good Oscar winning movies lately?? My choice was 'Bridge of Spies' but it didn't do as well as I thought that it might...

TAM

Re: 2016 Academy Awards
BobKay #417535 03/09/16 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted By BobKay
And the award for most hijacked thread goes to...

"Climate Change!"
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See. It is real. It even won an award!


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