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Expert advice needed Dialog not sounding to good.
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For the last week or so I been trying to get the Center dialog on my vp180 to sound less like voices coming out from a box. I tried different crossover setting, re-calibrating ARC also re-check the connection and still doesn't seem to help much. I wonder if I need to upgrade to the HP version and run full range? It's getting frustrating. Also the dialog is very low and doesn't match the soundstage very well. Maybe I'm placing my speaker incorrectly. Any advice would greatly appreciated.

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shin204 #418287 04/01/16 07:17 PM
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You mention re-calibrating ARC, so am I to assume that you are running an Anthem receiver or pre-amp?

It would be far better off if you are, to provide a copy of the speaker calibration printout. as it's run in Windows, if you load something like CutePDF if you don't have a pdf print or aren't running windows 10.

From the few times that I have played with ARC, I found that the defaults didn't even come close to letting the speaker run as full frequency. There is quite a bit of configuration that you can do inside of ARC. For dialog you will need to give your center speaker a bump around the 120hz to 220hz. it could be that your room is sucking those frequencies down and your are loosing your dialog as a result of that.


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shin204 #418288 04/01/16 07:20 PM
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You mentioned checking the connection... just to rule it out, are you sure the polarity is correct?

I have the VP180, and it sounds epic... hope you get it figured out, because you're missing out.

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Originally Posted By oakvillematt
You mention re-calibrating ARC, so am I to assume that you are running an Anthem receiver or pre-amp?

It would be far better off if you are, to provide a copy of the speaker calibration printout. as it's run in Windows, if you load something like CutePDF if you don't have a pdf print or aren't running windows 10.

From the few times that I have played with ARC, I found that the defaults didn't even come close to letting the speaker run as full frequency. There is quite a bit of configuration that you can do inside of ARC. For dialog you will need to give your center speaker a bump around the 120hz to 220hz. it could be that your room is sucking those frequencies down and your are loosing your dialog as a result of that.


Yes I'm running anthem mrx510 and using the pre-out to a anthem MCA 50 amp. Your advice to filter of at 120hz frequency is too high? wont that make the sound tinny? I'll upload the print out from ARC so you guys could have a look.

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shin204 #418290 04/01/16 08:15 PM
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sounds like a polarity problem like Brandon mentioned.


E = ((2M100 + VP180 + 4QS10)/(EP800 + EP500))^(ADA1500 x D2v)
N3/6xM2/4xM22/2xVP150/4xM3/2xM80/4xQS8
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[quote=EFalardeau]sounds like a polarity problem like Brandon mentioned. [/quote

I recheck all the speaker connection and its correct. Maybe Im excepting too much from this speaker. Although The vp180 has a bit more spl than my previous Center which is 2 times small than vp180. I'm expecting a lot more for the size.

Does the vp180 hp use a different mids and crossover?

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shin204 #418292 04/01/16 09:22 PM
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try swapping red and black on the vp180. its a quck test that doesn't cost anything


E = ((2M100 + VP180 + 4QS10)/(EP800 + EP500))^(ADA1500 x D2v)
N3/6xM2/4xM22/2xVP150/4xM3/2xM80/4xQS8
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shin204 #418293 04/01/16 09:27 PM
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I don't think you need to be looking at the HP. The 180 is very, very capable. Something isn't right. Make sure all drivers are working as well.


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Originally Posted By MarkSJohnson
I don't think you need to be looking at the HP. The 180 is very, very capable. Something isn't right. Make sure all drivers are working as well.


Do you have a good way of testing?

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shin204 #418296 04/01/16 10:05 PM
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Put your ear up to each driver is the easiest.
I had one that was popping or cracking, As I listened to each one found the culprit quite easy.

If any problem customer Service is great you could check their advice as well.

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