Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater Mounting QS8s....need help!

Yes, I may go that route and use the plastic wall anchors. I did order the full metal bracket as well. Good to know I can use it with other speakers as well. I will then decide which way to go with it. Here are few pics. First link shows my current 3.1 setup. Other 2 pics shows the rear wall where it will go. This will be 5.1 setup only. The QS8s I planned were gonna be mounted on rear wall where couch is. Notice there is only one side wall since its an open floor plan. Wall behind couch is 10 feet wide and 9 feet ceilings so should I mount them at ends of the wall? I was planning on mounting them 60 inches off the floor so the tweeter is 2 feet higher than my ears. While sitting on couch the ears are 26 inches from the back wall. So 7 to 9 feet apart and 60 inches from the floor is good idea? Any other welcome suggestions. Or should I post this in another thread? Here are pics! By the way in case anyone is wondering the front mains are spaced out about 9 feet and my ears to the mains are about 13 feet apart.

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Everything is a compromise it seems unless you can swing a dedicated space. With a 5.1 the surrounds should be to your left and right and slightly ahead of the seating position. For my ears I have found that I like the 8's close to the ceiling but you have high ceiling so it may take some trial and error. I would suggest find a way to set them up temporarily at different heights until you find the sweet spot. I found myself that having them too low that I could pinpoint their location too easily. It really sux when you screw those anchors in and then decide to move your mounts the holes are ugly. Keep us posted on your progress.

Oh and I really like the stand in the second picture , where did you get it if you don't mind my asking.

The stand? Its a console table where I keep my whiskey. I bought it from someone on Craigslist and had matching coffee table for a good price.

Yes, this will be 5.1 only since its an open room layout (for now). Wife wants to keep it modern and minimalist. The 3.1 sounds so good and people think I have surrounds already. ha ha Since this is more of living room theater I'm keep it minimalist til we move to a bigger house in few years and will do full dedicated HT room. I'm thinking with the rears on the rear wall at 60 inches off the floor is high enough without being too high From the sweet spot the surrounds will be 3 feet apart from my ears and only 18 inches higher than top of my head. While I could possibly do 7.1 I would need stands to put surrounds on the sides and then slide the stands to behind couch when not in use. I think it will sound better than my 3.1 and hear some surround sound at least. And will also be getting room treatments for the rear wall and side wall for first reflection points. While I am 2 feet away from the wall I think 7.1 may not work unless I move the couch another foot or two from the wall, thats why I was thinking to stick with 5.1? Just waiting on my full metal brackets to arrive so I can mount them. Also my speaker will should be here tomorrow that I ordered from Amazon. One question...I want the rears spread out at the very ends of the rear wall correct?

So based on the pictures I provided you think I"m better off mounting it on wall about 120 degrees behind ears about 60 inches off floor or have it on axiom qs8 stands 90 degrees beside the couch slightly above ear level which I believe will be 42 inches from floor?

The only way to really know is to find a way to set them up temporarily. Use a step ladder or a coffee table with books stacked up etc. When sitting on the couch the speakers should be to your left and right, I see you have a pass through to the kitchen which seems to be your limiting factor. Can you mount the speaker above the opening or put the mount inside the upper part of the opening.

I was thinking about putting the speaker on the sides of the couch but at the right wall and left wall 90 degrees. The opening hallway between kitchen and living room is 4 feet wide and only obstacle is speaker wire line form couch to short wall (kitchen side) which I don't mind as long as I step over it. LOL If thats the case the speaker at 90 degrees on stands will be 76 inches apart from both sides of MLP and 42 inches from floor. Just trying to figure out if its worth having it on stands at 90 degrees is an improvement over rear wall mounting at 120 degrees and mounting 2 to 3 feet higher. If I do stand mounting sides then I could do rears and do 7.1 but how much space do I need behind my ears to the wall. Right now the wall to my ears is 24 inches (2 feet). I can move the couch about another foot or two max and be ok with the wife if that improves anything. Will post more pics later of other side of room.

Well its a tough room to work with for sure. I am fortunate as I bought a house with a room that is only for HT. As far as placement goes I can only suggest what has worked well for me and you will have to translate that to your own space. Something that bothered me for a long time was the fact that my LCR just disappear but the surrounds were easily located and just didn't blend cohesively. In my case having them up higher than I would have thought necessary solved these issues. The receiver can adjust for these differences when you run your calibration. When I moved my QS4's to the bedroom I had no choice but to put the speakers up high, one had to be above the closet door and as it turns out that was a good place for them. This is whre the rubber meets the road, just get them up and see what works.

While not to confuse about surround mounting issues as the original thread title with placement options I decided to start new thread for placement options. LOL Yeah, it would be really nice to try different settings without mounting first but I don't see how to do that since i don't have a ladder high enough to try. Just wanted general ideas. I doubt I would know the difference since I'm not sure how its SUPPOSED to sound since this is my first 5.1 system. Had 3.1 setup for 10 years and sounded good as always and now decided to go with surrounds. I feel I'm wasting features of my 5 channel rotel amp and 7.1 rotel pre pro so thats why I bought QS8s first place to see if I can get improvement or what I've been missing this whole 10 years with very good 3.1 system. Not doing atmos anytime soom unless I get dedicated HT space and I am also not even using all the features of my current pre pro as it is since it requres more speakers. lol

I felt the same way when I started out. My kid got a cheap 5.1 HTIB for Christmas from his mom and that lasted about a month and igot the bug and its been non stop since LOL. For reference I was a real 2 channel nut with lots of equipment then kids happened then I got hooked on HT and man it get expensive. Anyway what I have found is that you should not be able to detect the source of the sound and when you achieve that your have reach nirvana. I have an emotiva processor and their is an upgrade coming for atmos which I am eager to try and hope like hell it delivers since it will be a huge expense. Atmos should be the next step in filling in any voids and lessening the ability to pinpoint the speakers. Baby steps man LOL.

Here is what I ended up doing with my QS8s. This was the only way I could do it at 90 degrees of MLP without spending $300 on stands or make holes in the walls with my non-ideal layout. The sound is fantastic! Even though I had a good 3.1 setup its nice to get the ambient sounds. Now just need to treat the room/walls. lol

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