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#420199 - 08/28/16 12:38 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: corduroy41]
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Interesting... either I'm missing something or there are more versions of the AX-5 than I thought, ie more than just wedge vs box. The pictures I have seen are of slightly taller boxes with ports on the front, but yours appear to be sealed cabinets (or the ports are somewhere non-obvious or I'm blind).

There also seem to be different grill arrangements, with the grill covering the entire front in some cases but only coming ~3/4 of the way down in others.

Here is another flavor of AX5, with ports and a taller enclosure:

http://seventiesstereo.blogspot.ca/2011/04/speakers-i-wish-i-owned-first-in.html


Edited by bridgman (08/28/16 12:44 PM)
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#420200 - 08/28/16 01:00 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: BBIBH]
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Originally Posted By BBIBH
As a long time owner of Axiom products, those models seem like early Axiom models. I owned AX 3, which were very similar and heard the AX5's on many occasions. Search the Water Cooler forum for historical references - and many visits, including mine in 1991 which shows the early views of the plant. The interesting design of the AX3 and 5 models were the cabinet within a cabinet with the original 3's front firing, and 5's rear firing, as the woofer was separated from the other drivers....oh, and the lifetime warranty, which I employed on several occasions to replace drivers. That played into my favour with Ian offering me a sensational deal to simply get my AX3's for the parts to re-purpose for use in repairing other AX3's to honour the "lifetime" warranty.

I can tell you with experience and without sarcasm, that my original AX3's do not compare with my M80's. I had lengthy discussions with Ian over the designs - having met Ian almost 30 years ago - and about the evolution of speakers, not wanting to trade in my AX3's....but I can tell you it was well worth the effort.

Though, based on your list of equipment, it seems you enjoy vintage equipment, so enjoy your journey!


Interesting.. I never thought about how the warranty would play into the trade up for parts. I have heard the AX-3's and was surprised how different they sounded compared to the AX-5's due to the lack of a midrange driver.

All this talk of the M80's though gets me more interested to hear them.

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#420201 - 08/28/16 01:09 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: bridgman]
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Originally Posted By bridgman
Interesting... either I'm missing something or there are more versions of the AX-5 than I thought, ie more than just wedge vs box. The pictures I have seen are of slightly taller boxes with ports on the front, but yours appear to be sealed cabinets (or the ports are somewhere non-obvious or I'm blind).

There also seem to be different grill arrangements, with the grill covering the entire front in some cases but only coming ~3/4 of the way down in others.

Here is another flavor of AX5, with ports and a taller enclosure:

http://seventiesstereo.blogspot.ca/2011/04/speakers-i-wish-i-owned-first-in.html


Yes! This is what I was coming here for mostly. There seem to be a few variants. Mine are not ported. Almost all the other I see are ported, much like from the link you posted. I figured the wedge design was just a newer model, same with the taller variants. I thought maybe I had somewhat of a rarer model here and wanted to share to see if you guys knew anything interesting.

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#420204 - 08/28/16 03:13 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: corduroy41]
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Fwiw there are vintage M80's.
At least of you think of them as 1st generation, 2nd generation,....etc.
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#420205 - 08/28/16 03:44 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: 2x6spds]
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"Vintage speakers, suspend judgment until you've heard them."

All vintage speakers sound similarly good through tube gear smile.
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#420206 - 08/28/16 03:46 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: bridgman]
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And yes, Mojo does appear to be an actual master of sarcasm"

I feel these boards need some spicing up smile.

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#420207 - 08/28/16 03:52 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: corduroy41]
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Well, yes, tube amplifiers do sound better. However, low efficiency speakers are a difficult load for low power SET tube amps.
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#420211 - 08/28/16 11:11 PM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: corduroy41]
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Originally Posted By corduroy41
Yes! This is what I was coming here for mostly. There seem to be a few variants. Mine are not ported. Almost all the other I see are ported, much like from the link you posted. I figured the wedge design was just a newer model, same with the taller variants. I thought maybe I had somewhat of a rarer model here and wanted to share to see if you guys knew anything interesting.

Ian has a great collection of speakers at the entrance to the factory (ie when you go from offices/labs to factory). Not sure if he has one of everything but he did have a number of different AX models last time I was there.

Hmm... the speaker collection isn't very far from the anechoic chamber... or the listening room. Hmm.


Edited by bridgman (08/28/16 11:12 PM)
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#420213 - 08/29/16 07:12 AM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: corduroy41]
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Originally Posted By corduroy41

Interesting.. I never thought about how the warranty would play into the trade up for parts. I have heard the AX-3's and was surprised how different they sounded compared to the AX-5's due to the lack of a midrange driver.

All this talk of the M80's though gets me more interested to hear them.


The AX 3's had the same drivers as the 5's - tweeter, mid range, woofer- just a smaller woofer. They were produced over the years with the shorter cabinet, tall cabinet and anti sound wave shaped cabinet.

The museum was moved when I was there for the 35th anniversary in Fall 2015, but I suspect it was a temporary thing, as it was in the factory near a new production area...but it seemed to have grown in the size of the collection!


Edited by BBIBH (08/29/16 07:14 AM)
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#420214 - 08/29/16 08:14 AM Re: AX-5 Reference Monitors [Re: BBIBH]
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Originally Posted By BBIBH
Originally Posted By corduroy41

Interesting.. I never thought about how the warranty would play into the trade up for parts. I have heard the AX-3's and was surprised how different they sounded compared to the AX-5's due to the lack of a midrange driver.

All this talk of the M80's though gets me more interested to hear them.


The AX 3's had the same drivers as the 5's - tweeter, mid range, woofer- just a smaller woofer. They were produced over the years with the shorter cabinet, tall cabinet and anti sound wave shaped cabinet.

The museum was moved when I was there for the 35th anniversary in Fall 2015, but I suspect it was a temporary thing, as it was in the factory near a new production area...but it seemed to have grown in the size of the collection!


Sorry, I was thinking of the AX-2's.. I forgot the 3's had the midgrange driver.

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