Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion What's New At Axiom Introducing the M5 and QS10

Replying to my own post as edit time has elapsed.

Now that I think more about the M5, it'd be really interesting to see or read a 'developers diary' from Andrew or Ian on the thought process that went into the M5 and what the design give and takes were compared to the M22. Given that the M22 was the previous flagship book shelf, it'd be good to know what is gained (other than deeper extension) with the new design. How is detail retained or improved? Changes in cabinet design? Crossover selection with different size drivers vs 2 5.25" drivers? When would you pick an M22 vs an M5? Or an M80 vs an M5 etc...

Go immersive. On my 2nd build for others. Can't tell you how frustrating it is to install it and not have it myself. Roughing in one on Saturday coming up.

Your room would be loaded to the point of giggliness with 2 sb-2000s let alone 4 ep500 subs if you set them up right. I would consider your room a small room, a large bedroom size @1300 cu.ft. Mojo experienced 2 of the subs I mention in a room virtually identical in size to the room you are building @1700 cu.ft. Very fun in there.

The M5HPs in your new room would rock it to the point of ridiculousness if you asked them to. If you went all around 7ch MP5HP in wall with decent in ceilings and subs you would have a stunner of a setup at a bargain price. You could have a wall mounted fixed frame screen. Perfect for your small room. You just have to make sure your side surrounds are not firing into the ear of a person seated nearby. This will mean placing them slightly further back by a foot or so.

The two sb-2000s were causing heart palpitations.

I typically consider rooms up to 800ft^3 small, 800-2500ft^3 medium, 2500-4000 ft^3 large.

My dreamcatchers are in an 800ft^3 room and I have tons of headroom with them even though they bottom out at 1/6th of the power of the M5HPs.

You would buy M22s over M5HPs if you can't afford the extra money. There is no other reason.

Hi Mojo, have you heard the M5's as part of beta or something? Just curious as you are stating your opinion rather definitively - it sounds like 1st hand experience. I agree they look good on paper, but until I do some listening I can't state which sound signature I prefer and why.

For ported speakers, yes.

Bridgman...lol!

I have not heard the M5HPs. I don't have to in order to know they will shame the M22s and M3s. I know this because I've heard the M22s, M3 and Air (which is based on the M3 platform). Use of the HP driver and the smaller midrange will resolve the obvious drawbacks I've heard in the M3 platform and the M22s. The M5HPs are essentially Bryston mini As with higher power handling, higher sensitivity and deeper and more linear low end.

I have a question out to Andrew as to whether the midrange will be sealed in its own enclosure and if the cabinet will be stiffer than the M22ti. This will give me an indication of whether or not the midrange will be superior to the mini A.

Axiom team, I already have a subwoofer for lows, will I gain anything going from my wonderful m22v4's to the M5's? Are the M22 stands compatible with the M5's? Thanks

Mojo, you're enthusiasm is cracking me up. Personally until I hear them.... I have no opinion. Improved mid range or a speaker with too much mids can make a speaker sound like a tin can too...think bose. I hate too much mids as it becomes harsh. I just spent money on a few things here so I'm in no position to push the wife further..lol. m3, ep500, ep800, axiomair all since November. But I'm very interested in hearing the onwalls. I have several applications for them.

I'm wondering that same thing. With the EP500, what's the advantage moving from m22 to M5. I can see as a 2.0 stereo option, more extension. But in a 2.1 or surround setup that's what the EP 500 is providing.

I noticed SPL in-room for QS8 is 98, and QS10 is 92. Is this correct?