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Re: Advice for surround speakers - QS4, QS8 or on-wall
Pidg #423542 02/23/17 03:02 AM
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Welcome to Axiom. At the relatively short listening distance you'll be using, surround effects and music ambience will be better with wide dispersion surrounds such as the QSs. Although the QS4s should be adequate at that distance, if your budget can support B-stock QS8s, they'd be advisable.

One suggestion is to mount the QSs about 2' above ear level and about 2' back, rather than directly to the side, to add a bit of "back" effect in the absence of actual back surround speakers. Enjoy.


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Re: Advice for surround speakers - QS4, QS8 or on-wall
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As for why the M3 wall speakers as surround back, well I was under the impression from reading articles on the Internet that people prefered monopole speakers from the surround back because sound could be better localized.

As for putting the QS8 speakers behind the couch to cover for surround back, well there is not space on the wall for that (unless the couch is very near the TV) and I prefer using specific speakers for the surround back. What I could do is buy the qS8 for the side surrounds and use the Paradigm Titans V3 while I get enough money to buy surround back speakers.

Here are some pictures of my home theater;

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Re: Advice for surround speakers - QS4, QS8 or on-wall
Pidg #423556 02/24/17 01:53 AM
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no no no no just my 2 cents but you do not want localized surrounds


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Re: Advice for surround speakers - QS4, QS8 or on-wall
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If you have a decent amount of distance from the seating position to the rear surrounds then a direct radiating speaker will work but if you are too close the sound will be localized and will detract from the experience. I know the QS's are expensive but ultimately worth the money imho. You could probably bet by with QS4's for the rear surrounds. I used M2's for rear surrounds suspended from the ceiling and it worked quite well, they blended nicely with the side surrounds.


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Re: Advice for surround speakers - QS4, QS8 or on-wall
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In this case I'd try with the tv on the long wall.
4's or 8's would be just behind you.
You might even be able to walk behind still.

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Finish your space. Buy a ceiling.

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Yes I know I have to finish the ceiling:p. Been redoing the whole basement since last year ad really want to have fun with my home theater smile

Back to the subject, I will not change the room orientation.

Measured the distance between the couch and the back wall this morning. The distance is 8 feet so in practice, distance between the couch and the back speakers will be 7´ to 8 '.

I know now that the side surrounds will be qs8 now just need to decide for the back surrounds.

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For the side Surrounds I would do QS8s and about 32" to 36" above seated ear level height.
For the rears again I would have QS8's and mount them from the ceiling with the Full Metal Ceiling Bracket.
My room is the same size almost. Same think the stairs come down behind, but I got anal and built a wall up, just because I could :0 also I didn't want them ceiling mounted so needed something. Plus it gives another buffer of sound proofing than room.
Also, ceiling is open make sure you put a board in the area incase you do, so you can have something to screw into solid

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Been there. Just teasing. smile

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Just another question for you guys,

I read a little bit more about Atmos and DTS-X. At first I tought this stuff would be a gimmick but from my reading:

a) It looks like more and more movies are coming with Atmos or DTS-X.

b) For somes, it seems like a big upgrade compared to the traditionnal 5.1 or 7.1

c) Not sure how my receiver will react when putting a movie that sends Atmos / DTS-X signal.

d) I have my speakers since 2004 and I am not the kind of person that change speakers just because of changing speakers. The only ready I will change my receiver is a) Broken or b) buying a 4K tv (currently have a plasma HDTV).

e) I like the having sound around me when watching TV, a movie or playing video games.

So considering all this, I really like the idea of the QS8 and I am sure they can do a great job it is just really a consideration of what I do in the future. Really, not sure that Atmos is that much of an upgrade / just hope that a home theater with QS8 surrounds will continue to be fun even if more and more movies are going to ATMOS / DTS-X.

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