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Re: MC's Basement HT
mikecoscia #423919 03/07/17 10:39 PM
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A couple of years ago, I snagged a pair of EP-800s from the Refurb Store.

One of the best purchases that I've ever made & saved a bunch of bucks...

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Re: MC's Basement HT
mikecoscia #423922 03/08/17 03:20 AM
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Just seen an EP800 sell for $800 online. Was sold within a few days of the original post.



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There are 2 EP600's in the Refurb store, they would be a good buy.[/quote]

Originally Posted By exlabdriver
A couple of years ago, I snagged a pair of EP-800s from the Refurb Store.

One of the best purchases that I've ever made & saved a bunch of bucks...

TAM


I'm always weary of buying refurbs. Are they in good shape or blemished? I also need my EP600 in the horizontal position. Going to place it behind the couch.

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mikecoscia #423925 03/08/17 05:09 PM
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Axiom really goes over the products that get refurbished. It is made to perform as good as new, but since it isn't new they can't mark it as anything else.


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Re: MC's Basement HT
mikecoscia #423926 03/08/17 05:21 PM
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My EP-800s were flawless visually (obviously well loved by the previous owner) & came with a 2 year warranty that hasn't been used in any way.

If there are blemishes, Axiom shows them on the listing so that you know what you are getting...

TAM

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mikecoscia #423927 03/08/17 06:46 PM
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"Axiom really goes over the products that get refurbished. It is made to perform as good as new, but since it isn't new they can't mark it as anything else."

What is your definition of "new"? I very much doubt Axiom takes, say, an EP600v2 and makes sure it sounds like an EP600v2. First, what is an EP600v2? That version under-went many changes. Second, I doubt they've maintained the test jigs from the EP600v2.


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Re: MC's Basement HT
Mojo #423931 03/08/17 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Mojo

What is your definition of "new"? I very much doubt Axiom takes, say, an EP600v2 and makes sure it sounds like an EP600v2. First, what is an EP600v2? That version under-went many changes. Second, I doubt they've maintained the test jigs from the EP600v2.


Actually, I spoke to Ian about this and he indicated that they measure against the measurements captured during the original development of the products. In that way, he baselined my AX3's against the original baselines.

With the advances in technologies, I am sure they can compare the performance quite easily, and adjust as required.

Re: MC's Basement HT
exlabdriver #423954 03/10/17 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted By exlabdriver
My EP-800s were flawless visually (obviously well loved by the previous owner) & came with a 2 year warranty that hasn't been used in any way.

If there are blemishes, Axiom shows them on the listing so that you know what you are getting...

TAM


This is actually where I strongly disagree. Axiom does not do a good job at taking pictures of damaged areas. In fact a lot of the time the pics in the refurb area aren't even the speakers you'll be getting but instead a jpeg of the same model take from the product section of the web page. I had m22's that were clearly damaged more than the picture indicated... because there was no picture showing the damage. Same thing with a EP500 which was marked good but should have been scratch and dent, and my EP800 in pine - they had two on sale at the same time, both pine, both Ians old subs, one vertical, one horizontal but yet both ads showed the same vertical speaker and no pics of the damage. My EP800 clearly had damage on one side. I did get a set of Pine M3's and emailed in and got a description that was was accurate from Steve. Also got a M3's in maple that were marked good but honestly they were brand new and not a mark. It's not all doom and gloom but any web site selling ANYTHING with damage should clearly show it, and describe it.

Now functionally, all my refurbs were perfect. Heck my ep800 had new internals. No complaints there.

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Re: MC's Basement HT
mikecoscia #423955 03/11/17 12:46 AM
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Shipping damage obviously. Isn't that always the case?

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Mojo #423956 03/11/17 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Mojo
Shipping damage obviously. Isn't that always the case?

None of my speakers had shipping damage. Boxes all intact.

Goto the refurb area right now and notice how many items do not have REAL pictures yet alone zoomed in pics showing damage. You order anything there its a mystery of what you are getting and the "scratch or Dent" is. Each description is literally a copy pasted paragraph that is the same on every item there.

You buy something on Ebay, Kijiji, and classifieds, there are many REAL pics of what you are going to get. Matter of fact, on Ebay I won't buy anything that doesn't have a real pic.

This is not shipping damage....this is a speaker that had something stacked on it, or was stacked on something over time. I'm just saying, they can do better. Now in each case, Axiom took care of me, that is the important thing. But with better descriptions and pics, I would not have wasted any time ordering something too damaged for my liking.







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