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We have been playing around with a possible new product over the past few weeks; the LFR180. It is an omnidirectional centre channel you can make a complete LFR home theatre system across the front. The big 3-dimensional soundstage of the LFRs would be pretty cool for movies, as it is for 2-channel now. Just thought it would be nice to get everyone’s bent on this.  
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It's an interesting idea for those who are space-limited. Perhaps also budget-limited?
How do you envision installing/placing this?
Is this really an LFR though? It doesn't have a set of terminals for the front speakers and a set of terminals for the back and hence no DSP.
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A four letter cuss word starting with F popped into my head....
Now I remember why I don't hang out around here much anymore.....
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Frankly, Since the LFR 1100 was introduced, I was actually hoping, at some point, for a "straight" center channel that was omnidirectional in design which I would think offer a larger off-axis and enveloping sweet spot for dialogue and other sounds eminating from the center channel.
Ian, as you probably are aware, back several years ago, before they introduced their Omnipolar design, Mirage had a simpler center channel version of these with a speaker firing from the back, however, in a considerably smaller package. My thoughts were that perhaps although there would not be as many drivers or be quite as large as the one in the picture, however, is there or has there ever been any thoughts of producing such a speaker as strictly as a center channel with, of course, just a single connection?
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I am confused. Is one set of terminals for the front drivers and the other for the rear? Or is this center intended to be used as a replacement for L/C/R?
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Just a thought. Why dont you guys start in another direction. When you iterate on existing products you alienate existing customers who may have just purchased your prior totl product. There are several members who have shared dissapointment that they thought they were buying your best, then you offer better months later. Maybe call the speakers something else unrelated to what you are doing now. I think most other brands do a 5 or 7 year cycle then refresh the entire lineup. Make them look different and make your current totl the baseline for the new products pedigree. A different wrap, shape, layout, whatever. Make something new and let Andrew run with his ambitions.  Tease out the process with behind the scenes design vids, tests and finally the big reveal. You guys have a great team, and products, but when it comes to engaging your audience you have a huge untapped opportunity. A lineup around 8" driver based would be my suggestion. Then smaller isobaric subs with bigger amplifiers. Forget the old. On with new and more importantly completely different.
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The trade-up program is for those who must have the latest. I think it's a good deal for everyone.
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The LFR180 has one input for the front and one input for the rear and uses a separate amp channel for each with a DSP to separate them at the pre-amp. We are able to put the right, left, and centre in one DSP box with three inputs and six outputs. An ADA six channel amp could then be used to run the front three channels.
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On the topic of an omnidirectional with only one input for both the front and rear; this was discussed between Andrew and me before doing an omni. Andrew already had vast experience with omni speaker design. He knew the only way to design one without making compromises was to have separate channels driving the front and rear; and the goal for the LFR Series was no compromises. We need to have total control over the amplitude response curves of the front and rear driver compliments and the only way to do this is digitally at the pre-amp level.
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Just a thought. Why dont you guys start in another direction. When you iterate on existing products you alienate existing customers who may have just purchased your prior totl product. There are several members who have shared dissapointment that they thought they were buying your best, then you offer better months later. Maybe call the speakers something else unrelated to what you are doing now. I think most other brands do a 5 or 7 year cycle then refresh the entire lineup. Make them look different and make your current totl the baseline for the new products pedigree. A different wrap, shape, layout, whatever. Make something new and let Andrew run with his ambitions. Tease out the process with behind the scenes design vids, tests and finally the big reveal. You guys have a great team, and products, but when it comes to engaging your audience you have a huge untapped opportunity. A lineup around 8" driver based would be my suggestion. Then smaller isobaric subs with bigger amplifiers. Forget the old. On with new and more importantly completely different. A Different looking cabinet style / or series is long overdue. I know a lot of people on the "other forums" think Axiom's are old looking, boring. I'm not saying I agree, I think my speakers look good, but having the same exact shape and design for what 15yrs now? maybe it is time. These outrageously huge type of speakers are a niche product.
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