Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Lifting up the M60,s

Yep, those are the ones I was thinking of. Thanks !

Hey, they're simple enough that I could build a pair before the post edit timeout period expired:



I used 4 pieces of lumber though, since I didn't have any 2x10 handy. So all 2x4 - 2 14" pieces on edge, 2 10" crosspieces. Does anyone know a photo editor that will automatically remove dust bunnies ?

Anyways, so far I'm happy with them. My problem with too-low speakers is that I unconsciously look at where the sound is coming from so after a while my neck gets sore. Having the height correct also seems to spread the vertical soundstage out a bit, something someone else here (Socketman ?) pointed out recently.

Bass response seems slightly different, but it *might* actually have smoothened it out a bit. The sound still seemed a tiny bit bass heavy before even with the speakers a couple of feet out from the wall, but I'm not getting that impression now.

OK, so overall I'm pretty happy with the raised speakers.

There is a bit of a "hollow" sound I noticed immediately (like a dip in the upper bass) but I'm having trouble quantifying it and haven't had time to either do any A/B testing or go back to albums I listened to in the last day or two before raising speakers...

... so I'm not 100% sure the hollow sound is a real thing yet. Thinking about distances and speed of sound it doesn't seem likely that raising the speakers a few inches (5") would be enough to muck up response in the few hundred hz or higher range, but no time to really think about it right now. What I do hear clearly is just enough bass reduction to cut down a bit of a boomy edge I was hearing previously - but what I'm not sure is whether that same change is also causing the 'hollow' sound.

Think I figured it out... I had previously been listening to the M3s on stands, so when I switched back to M60s I just set them up outboard of the M3s and didn't move the M3+stands in at all. The result was that the M60s were too far apart for seamless soundstage but I hadn't listened enough to them in that position to realize.

When I lifted the M60s the soundstage went from "hole in the middle" to "almost but not quite seamless". I moved them in a few inches on each side and the "hollowness" seems to have gone away.

It's always hard to be sure without going back and forth a few times, but short of building a hydraulic switch box I'm not going to have time to do that much testing for a while.

Anyways, very happy with the M60s now, more so than at any time since I got them.

Nice!

Thanks. Wouldn't have done it without your pics and your mention of the stands being 5" tall. That's what triggered the "hey that's a 2x4 on end plus 2xSomething flat" thought which made me realize I could build them from my 2x4 cut-off pile.

Turning bigger scraps into smaller scraps; the true spirit of woodworking

I think I will put my M80s on top of my 350s

I'm trying to visualize that...it sure would get people's attention when they walked into the HT.

"Your speakers are staring down at me"

Might actually work pretty well since M80s have tweeters and midranges down to "there"...

That is exactly what I was thinking. Since I have 2 rows of seating it would help the tweeters hit everyone.

If you want a statement, but some M100's ontop of a pair of EP800's. that will get some attention.. along with the 12' ceilings you'd need.

Everyone gets their own tweeter