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#424529 - 03/28/17 01:59 AM Lifting up the M60,s
gearcruncher Offline
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Loc: Red Lake Ontario
Hey guys . Building a new theater in the basement and couldn't help noticing that to get the M60,s to ultimate hearing height , I may need to raise the speakers approx 8 inches .
With this said , do you guys believe I am overthinking the sound-stage ? They sound great on the floor . I just thought while I have my complete system ripped apart , maybe I should build some pedestals for these critters ?
Any thoughts ?
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#424530 - 03/28/17 02:57 AM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Someone here made some nice simple pedestals out of 3 pieces of lumber... I'm probably going to do the same but I haven't had much luck finding the post.

IIRC I have some 1x12 left over from making the last set of stands, so I'm thinking about just screwing an M60-depth piece of 1x12 to a couple of 2x6's for a ~7" lift.

Whoever made the original stands please sing out - I remember your HT had an acoustically transparent screen and there was a lot of black in the pictures, but that's about as far as memory is taking me.
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#424532 - 03/28/17 03:24 AM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
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Andrew didn't recommend it....

I've lifted my towers a few times.
Sometimes it made things worse, others better.
Location in the room for both your seat and the towers will both matter.
Mine are currently off the floor but plans are in the works to drop them back down after removing a row of seats.
If you look, many theatres have the towers on a stage.
You won't know unless you try.
I lucked out, a local audio centre was selling 3 shelf (4 if you count the top) towers for $50 a piece. Meant for audio components, not speakers.
I bought 6, used pieces from 3 in a single tall tower for my AVR, amp, pj, ps4, etc and once a year or so I place the others (top and bottom only adding about 12" in height) under my towers.
Placement in the room is/ can be incredibly relevant. The time and cost may not be worth it in the end.


Edited by brwsaw (03/28/17 03:29 AM)
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#424540 - 03/28/17 11:07 AM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
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Nice.

My experimentation with raising towers has been with M40s so far.

I found that raising them ~10" definitely interfered with low bass response, but raising them ~4" left the response close enough to original that I could not detect a change across the ~1 minute it took me to raise and/or lower them.
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#424545 - 03/28/17 01:09 PM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
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Has anyone ever glued their LFR1100s and EP800 to the ceiling? Like...upside down? Did you witness an inverted response?

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#424547 - 03/28/17 01:17 PM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
exlabdriver Offline
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I tried but my wife couldn't lift my 800s, ha!

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#424548 - 03/28/17 01:52 PM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: bridgman]
gearcruncher Offline
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Registered: 04/16/12
Posts: 61
Loc: Red Lake Ontario
Considering I will be making the boxes myself , I could try your recommendations first . Doesn't take much to test the theory
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#424549 - 03/28/17 02:09 PM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
nickbuol Offline
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I lifted my M60s. I probably have a picture somewhere in my build thread, let me see if I can find it and post it here....
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#424550 - 03/28/17 02:13 PM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
nickbuol Offline
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Found it. My speakers are behind my screen and a false wall, so I painted them black, but they are far from fancy looking.

They are, however, rock solid and work well. This pushed mine up 5"... Is it noticeably better than without the stands? Who knows. Scientifically it should be, but I never tested to see if I could actually hear a difference.


Hey @bridgman look.... M60 stands made out of 3 pieces of lumber!
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#424551 - 03/28/17 02:16 PM Re: Lifting up the M60,s [Re: gearcruncher]
gearcruncher Offline
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Registered: 04/16/12
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Loc: Red Lake Ontario
I have some time before I actually give them a lift as I am still in the drywall stage , however , this is exactly what I was thinking about
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