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#424599 - 03/29/17 01:03 PM Re: AV receiver vs. stereo Amp? [Re: Rock]
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Originally Posted By Rock
EP500 doesn't have a high pass out for downstream speakers. So I may have to use AVR or get another AMP to separate the frequencies.


I looked at the pictures of the 500 on here, and it accepts high level inputs. You connect your NAD to those, then from those to the M22's, which is what brwsaw was mentioning
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#424602 - 03/29/17 02:37 PM Re: AV receiver vs. stereo Amp? [Re: BBIBH]
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That will work, but as I learned in the other thread i linked to, full signal will be sent to the M22's this way. You'll get the benefit of the sub, but you won't 'free up' any low frequency load on the speakers. (it's not a high pass filter)


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#424603 - 03/29/17 03:15 PM Re: AV receiver vs. stereo Amp? [Re: Rock]
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With exception to the cross over, which wouldnt be used in this case, it will work.
Assuming his listening preference aligns with the power available he should have a fully functional system.
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#424607 - 03/29/17 04:17 PM Re: AV receiver vs. stereo Amp? [Re: Rock]
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I run my M2s & EP-400s this way.

From what I understand, the M2s were designed roll off naturally & gracefully in the lower end.

I never hear anything nasty out of this system...

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#424612 - 03/29/17 10:56 PM Re: AV receiver vs. stereo Amp? [Re: cb919]
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good info indeed talking about subwoofer connection. Wondering if anyone had done the comparison between conventional and speaker level connections. There are also other interesting ways on http://www.mapleshadestore.com. Have you tried them?

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#424613 - 03/29/17 11:11 PM Re: AV receiver vs. stereo Amp? [Re: Rock]
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Rock, you're basically correct on that point. The confusion caused in even some veteran audio enthusiasts by the mislabeled "crossover" control on some subs(unfortunately including Axiom subs)continues. Subs have no internal crossovers; the control is simply a low-pass filter which rolls off the sub response above the selected frequency but can have no effect on the mains, which continue to have to attempt to play the full range. This is the case regardless of whether the mains are connected through the sub.
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#424622 - 03/30/17 08:50 AM Re: AV receiver vs. stereo Amp? [Re: Rock]
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Originally Posted By Rock
good info indeed talking about subwoofer connection. Wondering if anyone had done the comparison between conventional and speaker level connections.


Yes, as mentioned, but it was across different amps NAD - speaker level connections, Yamaha - sub out and direct speaker level.

It would be difficult to say definitively that one is better, primarily due to the differing nature of the amps, but the bass was solid, and of course the M80's produced more bass without the filtering of the amp.

I am not sure this would help, as the M22's are a different speaker in terms of bass output when they are run full range compared to the M80's
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