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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427066 11/22/17 06:07 PM
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Yeah...I thought about that. But no thanks. It's a PITA for me and also for Axiom. I'd rather hear from forum members about their EP800 experience. Reading between the lines from Craig's experience, the EP800 doesn't punch the way the SVS and one other sub (I can't remember the name) does.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427067 11/22/17 06:36 PM
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I went from a 500 to 800. The 800 definitely creates a draft in the room. Not too sure it "punches" more the way you want it (upper lower frequencies you like so much if my memory serves me right, like 50-60hz). Definitely amazing feeling of "reality" when used with pipe organ, cellos or very low frequency percussion. Some of the bass extensions might be out of the audible range, but it decidedly adds a "tactile" dimension that is often only felt in an actual church or large concert hall.
The 800 shines the most with surround SACDs because of that touch of added realism.
Additional: And with movies with lots of LFE, of course!


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427068 11/22/17 06:37 PM
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Perhaps the punch that you desire is due to some exaggerated frequency response in the mid bass range - fun but not accurate. Axiom subs are known to be highly accurate through their frequency range, thus they sound very 'musical' (for want of better term).

My twin EP-800s are the best sounding subs that I've ever heard - both for music and HT. With the way that they effortlessly shake my house & contents to its foundations, I can't imagine needing or wanting any more...

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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427069 11/22/17 06:52 PM
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Thanks guys. Yes, I do know that it moves more air. I don't know if the mid-bass I hear with other subs is exaggerated but I feel like I am missing out on a lot especially on movies. When rifles, guns, rockets, etc go off, I want the extra low frequencies that make my pants flap AND the shots in the butt and nuts that are oh so sweet smile.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Further to my last - this is a good overview of the EP-800:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/s...ker-review.html

and a follow up:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/sub-zone-subwoofer-testing/62085-axiom-ep800.html

It come down to the fact the the EP-800 does exactly what it is supposed to do - with no unnecessary exaggeration. That is the way that I like my sound, others may not...

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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Yeah...thanks TAM. Believe me, over the years I've read everything on the EP800...and ALL your posts about it and your M22s...LOL!


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
Mojo #427075 11/22/17 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I have wanted to move the 800 but I am not sure how much benefit it will give me over the 600v2. My environment has terrific extra low frequency content but lacks mid-bass punch. I know this isn't a fault of my environment because I've had other (lesser and equal) subs in there and they punched.

Will the 800 give me mid-bass punch?


sounds to me like you've got your sub setup wrong. Check the back of the sub to see where you set the cross over/fall off point. If you've set that too low then the amp won't do the higher frequencies. I'd also check the receiver/pre-amp to see how that is setup. you might be chopping off the mains and leaving a huge sound gap without realizing it.

loads of the receivers out there try and limit the bass from the mains to save power and put that onto the sub that uniless it's setup to handle the frequencies, you end up with the sound you have

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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427077 11/22/17 09:40 PM
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Also, play with location of the subs. I could not believe the differences in bass range and out put simply by moving locations. One location did absolutely nothing for my old Def Tech. It was low output mud. I moved it across the room and wow! It was like I tripled the power and it lost all of the muddiness .

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Yeah...nahhhh Mat...I am not a newbie. I've tried every setting in every possible combo over the last 11 years...believe me. I bring other subs into my room and same set-up and have no issue.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
Slimpikins #427080 11/22/17 09:48 PM
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Yes slim. That 600 of mine has been on almost every square inch of my 600 sq. ft. space. Plenty of extra low response all over my entire house and into both neighbors' places but no mid-bass punch.


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