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I can almost live without a sub for my M80s for music but there's no way I can get the chest slam Slim is experiencing with his Ts. Then again, I am only driving them with an Onk.

I love good dynamic slam for music.... Timo Mass 'connected' is a good play for it. It's the best electronic music which is well recorded and with subs, amazing. dual disc album, one is better than the other

"Flawed theory on small speakers paired with subs. Woofers, mids, tweeters, x-over and tower enclosure along with the room, blend together to present a soundstage, dynamics and instrument localization that can't be replicated with a sub and bookshelves."

Bullsh%t...

TAM

I cant find "connected". I can get my jeans flapping with "psychofunk" but no chest slam. Also to get the flap I need to turn it insane loud and it hurts.

Timo Mass connected is out there, I see it available on discogs and I have a copy which I am listening to right this moment on T's with no subs, sadly. I need that EP 500

TAM, I know the truth hurts and I know you love what you have and hold it near and dear. There is however better; much better. Folks come here, listen to what I have and can't ever again enjoy what they have in the same way. I make sure to ask them multiple times if they really want to hear it. Sometimes, I try to discourage them because I know what it does to people. No matter how happy and satisfied I may be with it however, I am not deluded into believing it can't be significantly better.

This is why those who want the ultimate experience buy big, bold towers like the Ts and LFR1100s and the associated amplification. They also have big rooms, with speakers placed well away from room boundaries and sit in the far field to enjoy an expansive and multi-dimensional sound-stage.

Not on Spotify.

Poor you. Model Ts and enough power to arc weld but no sub. You're living like a peasant over there.

Mojo, I think you had asked my speaker placement in relation to the walls the other day... .I said 5 feet. I played with the placement a bit last night as I am doing a remodel and I wanted to see how they'd sound in a slightly different placement. I moved the T's about a foot more away from the back walls and about a foot closer spacing from each other. they are now about 15 feet apart, 6 feet from the back and side walls or so.... it really built up the dynamic power, I was very surprised.

I agree, big speakers,large rooms and a lot of power with a dedicated amplifier. As far as cables are concerned, I don't buy into any of the high priced cable stuff. I use high quality made in USA Belden wire with expanding tip banana connectors. 12 gauge or larger is fine. I use 12, it works. Skin effect is skin effect, the signals travel on the outside of the wire and copper is just fine for me, but larger conductors carry high current better. Adam disagrees with me, but he likes to spend thousands on cables which I buy for $60.

I wouldn't go quite that god damn far. The amp is only doing 60 amps per channel.... my Thermal arc Tig welder does 180 amps, so I am not welding any cables here! Well I could do some thin sheet metal

I know, eh? You can make even crappy speakers sound so much better by pulling them into the room.

How far away are you from the speakers in your main listening position?