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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427455 12/12/17 04:18 AM
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For all we know, the 800 might be able to reach down to 2 Hz now. Axiom's making all these changes but no one knows about them.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427457 12/12/17 09:08 PM
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Slim, I think you should have serenity_now come and tune your room and system. You should see the science he did with his room.

He also built his own 170 lb each monolith of a speaker. He'll have that room so tightly designed, you'll be able to graze with 1 cm resolution with no change in response.

And of course I need to come there too because serenity_now is not a professional engineer like me. You'll need his design stamped by me. I'll stamp the design using the blood that trickles out of my ear drums.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427458 12/13/17 01:19 AM
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Mojo,

You guys are welcomed to certify this room, stamp it, re-certify and then have at it until bourbon runs out or you go deaf.

I'll be happy to sit back and take it all in.

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427459 12/13/17 01:22 AM
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On another note; I am switching out to all XLR feeds to subs from here on out. Too bad I just had a custom 40 foot RCA terminated sub line made up for me by Blue Jeans cables.... nice heavy duty cable, but I am switching out. I don't think that they take in trades. smile

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427460 12/13/17 01:30 AM
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You can graze around us while serenity_now works his magic and I chant incantations to drive out the distortion demons.

Serenity_Now used AI techniques to augment his room. I hope he shows up here and points to what he did. It's truly impressive and I am in awe of his geekness.

Did you know he used to be hell_commute when he lived in Calgary but is now serenity_now because he has no commute where he lives.

Are you still liking the 500?


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427461 12/13/17 01:45 AM
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Yeah, still enjoying the EP 500 on my second night.... listening to the original sound track of Easy Rider from 1969. Great mix of all the great bands and the recording isn't bad at all. Those old records never had a lot of bass. The bass was more pulled back in the background, but it sounds really nice and smooth.

The sound of the EP500 is not like most other subs I have heard. I think Ian's DSP is designed to be very flat and linear, not accentuated in any particular range. Most other subs I have heard seem to emphasize some particular low bass note. It's what gives that chest hit on strong notes. It's like using an 8 band equalizer and pumping up one range.

If I were trying to make a disco club in here, I'd opt for another sub which would beat my chest, this sub is great for well rounded, silky smooth music that fills a room like a small underground club with a live band, the bass player isn't drowning out everything else and moving the drinks off the table to the floor. It's just plain old nice.

But keep in mind the factor of relativity here, I am in a 10,000 cu foot space using this EP500 in an area far larger than it was designed for; if it were in a space a third the size, it might very well provide the chest slam. I have been comparing it to subs running three times the power. My thought on this plan was to use smaller subs, and more of them around the room vs. one or few large subs. It's all relative.

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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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"Yeah, still enjoying the EP 500 on my second night."

That feeling will pass and you'll want an EP800 smile

You gave a very good description of what Ian was always targeting and it sounds like he's achieved. I'll tell you it was a long process for him punctuated by misfortunes but he persevered through it and certainly did have some serendipity along the way.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Do you have the 800 and simply adding a second one? Or are you ordering your first 800 due to arrive this week?

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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I have a 600v2 which I'll be replacing with an 800v4 which I hope has no dust cap and the cool amp.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427465 12/13/17 02:36 AM
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So a ported 600 in how large an area? I'll be very curious to hear your thoughts on it.

Is the 600 v2 also considered flat and linear?

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