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I have a 4200 ft^3 space but it's open to the rest of the house. The 600 can completely overwhelm my entire house and my neighbor can feel it next door. What it can't do is punch me in the chest.

A few weeks ago I had an episode with it and had to go to the hospital. I turned it right up and also turned my receiver right up and then played a techno rock track. I had never done that before. I threw up all over the place and could barely gather my wits about me to turn it down. Fortunately it doesn't appear I've suffered any long term damage. When I returned, every painting in my basement was skewed and I have paintings that are 6 ft x 8 ft.

Axiom would like to think it was flat and linear From the 800 measurements I saw Dale Rasco take, Axiom's subs have come a long way. And those measurements are "old" so I am sure there have been improvements. In fact, Axiom has come a long way and it's time for Ian to get the story out. When Craig tells me the 800 is better than the JL Fathom, that says a lot.

I demoed the Paradigm 2000 SW not long ago. It was here when I had the Bryston Middle T's before getting the Model T's.

That sub with it's 15 inch driver and 2000 watts rms was just too much even in my monster room. I found it boomy and muddy, not to mention it turned all of my artwork sideways and caused glasses in the kitchen to lose footing. That sub had major chest pounding effects. But I didn't like it; not my cup of tea at all; not even bad bourbon.

I have never heard the F212 JL, but I suspect the EP800 would do a nice job of competing; I'd love to hear them both.

I want my Model T's to do the heavy lifting here, the subs need to be co pilot

Yeah...Ian's design philosophy is you should get out what you put in. Nothing more and nothing less. I guess that results in this "transparent" bass that you are witnessing.

Andrew and Ian are doing some amazing things. I am glad to see that he finally has some good engineering talent. It was severely lacking in the past. A lot has been cleaned up and I do think that Ian can go to his grave (not anytime soon) knowing that he created something very unique in the industry on many fronts.

I never heard of Axiom until I got the Brystons. That is what drove me to looking at their subs as I have not been happy with any subs I have been using other than my old Def Tech RIP. Although I was quoted $150 for a new OEM driver for it. I was tempted to order it in, but what I worry about is throwing good money after bad as when will the amp die? It's 15 years old.

But I thought I'd have to try out Axiom as I am very impressed with their workmanship on the Bryston. The EP 500 looks pretty much in line with the Brystons in build quality.

Can't wait to hear your report on that 800, and lets see if you get the new phasing control.

Did you ever see the photos of the inside of the Model T? It looks like a maze with all the bracing

I have never been able to find any internal photos of the T

Ok hang on.

And these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtSK64wXQBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cdPUHJKx70

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