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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427594 12/14/17 04:01 AM
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the white driver and white cap I have is actually a reversion cone, it's not for dust at all.

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Ah, just north of Burnsie

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427596 12/14/17 04:10 AM
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It's 46" tall. The port snakes up into the cabinet. I tried all kinds of experiments including stuffing pillows into it, my kids, my leg up to my thigh...


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Is that white or silver?

I like that wood. I think you should trade them in so I can snag them.


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The variable phase controls are useful. They can align the drivers at a given frequency between sub and speaker.

What the dial doesnt do is time shift the sub ahead to account for its DSP/Amp/large driver latency. You need to shift it ahead of your towers in time using delay settings. The distance setting (increasing distance over physical location) helps with this.

The one stop shop to do this without manually doing latency close mic measurents is Dirac. Otherwise its sub latency+Physical distance= Avr Setting. Then you can fine tune phase with distance or phase dial settings. I just leave the dial at zero and do from behind mic position with remote while watching graphs. Geeky all the way!

Btw, SVS dials are not really useful at all in my experience. They are not accurate from unit to unit. Have to verify manually. Especially gain. Way off between units.

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Originally Posted By Mojo
Is that white or silver?

I like that wood. I think you should trade them in so I can snag them.


You have better odds of raising $8000 by selling pencils on the street corner to get the cash for a pair of new Rosewoods than you do Tam trading his in ... laugh

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I don't think TAM has been clear on how he feels about his subs.

About time alignment...my impression is that XT32 does a great job. I read that so many people believe their autocal gets the sub distance wrong. The sub distance shown takes into account all delays; it's not just the physical distance to the sub. What I don't understand however is if something like xt32 corrects for frequency-dependent group delay or applies some average.


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Tam,

Are your subs Santos Rosewood? I know that they offer two types of Rosewood, the Santos being the more difficult variety to get now. But if yours are the older V3, then I assume they are Santos as it was more readily available as Ian told me. He said the price of Santos Rosewood went through the roof in the past year or so. My T's are about a year and half old or so and they too are in Santos Rosewood. I have not seen the other Rosewood they offer, I think he said its and African species and I don't know how it would match the Santos. I just ordered the standard Black Oak vinyl and it looks just great and the sub blends into the background.

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The drivers are white with no caps. The pic looks a bit more like silver but they really aren't. Of all of the pics on the net, it seems that it is difficult to get an accurate pic of the drivers - probably due to the contrast between the bright drivers & dark cabinet.

I don't know what kind of Rosewood that I have. They are from a few years ago & are different from the RW that is available today. The colour is a little lighter than my more recent M22s that have a darker burgundy shade. Not an exact match but beautiful nonetheless...

TAM

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