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So who would have thought that some high end grease would have such a dramatic effect on noise floor? Most people, me included, think of greasing the spindle and bearing as permitting free turning platter and more accurate speed control. I had no idea that my EP500 was going to pop out more.

Or you could use a nice CD and/or SACD player - noise problem solved, ha!

TAM

LOL! It's been decades since I read those. I remember a guy in grade 11 getting in deep doodoo for submitting a story like that to Ms. Fournier - an English teacher all the guys wanted private tutoring from.

TAM, take that though right out of your mind and hold it for a long time..... I am talking analog Vinyl recordings.... a whole different world from CD's or other digital formats. It's a different world and one which benefits from a lowered noise floor and very high end equipment. Once you hear a pristine record played on something like my Ares3 turntable with SME Series IV tonearm you would never go back. I have found the way to eliminate low frequency feed back from subs and now decoupling the platter from the TT base, it's simply amazing and nothing digital comes close in my opinion.

And I meant to ask a while ago. What is a Labdriver?

Have you guys seen the new Mark Levinson table coming out $10gs. Looks pretty cool.

I have not seen it. But if I may make a suggestion; skip paying high bucks for Turntables and look for used ones. You can find a super high end tt for 1/3 the new price if you search. I find a lot of the guys into the analog stuff are never happy; they move onto the next best thing dump what they have for peanuts.

But I am going to at least look at this unit

Slim, I have been around for a many decades so I know exactly what you are talking about. As soon as CDs came out in the early 80s, I ditched fragile vinyl & have never gone back.

The only problem that I've found with some digital recordings is crappy mixing by the sound engineer that hasn't taken advantage of the CD format's superior capabilities. SACDs seem to fare better than many CDs as this format is thought of as an 'audiophile' format. In my collection, they are mixed correctly with no apparent compression hence giving great dynamic range.

As for vinyl, I just couldn't be bothered with incessant record cleaning, anti static treatments, stylus jumping in heavy bass lines, stylus noise, tape noise, inevitable scratches (click, pop, click, pop), skipping with footsteps or dancing, etc, etc.

I'll say one thing, however; exotic TTs look cool, but for me really aren't worth the trouble.

As for an explanation of 'exlabdriver', go here starting with post #371230 & read for a few pages:

#https://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/371230/Searchpage/1/Main/21531/Words/labrador/Search/true/Re:_Scoop_on_Axiom_Subs?#Post371230

Some pics here of The Labrador:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ch113+labrador&t=hf&iax=images&ia=images

TAM

There is something warm and cozy with putting on a record and waiting for the music to start as you work through the lead in.... and hearing the clicks and pops, then bang, music. Yeah they are a little work, but I love it. But then again I don't use anti static devices or fancy record cleaning machines (although maybe I should, everyone swears by them), etc. All good fun!

Speaking of fun, I want to try driving one of those things.... Always wanted to try rotor

Flying is heavenly - hovering divine.

Two rotors are better than one, though some may not agree...

TAM