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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427943 12/27/17 06:21 AM
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The Abottsford has been going for a long time, never heard any complaints. Haven't been in a long time my self. Though had some friends kids stay over during the summer who went and they had a lot of fun.

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #428015 12/31/17 03:23 PM
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Any thoughts out there on driver break-in? Does it exist for real or is it simply our brains getting used to the way a speaker sounds and 'we' make the adjustments?

I could swear my three week old EP500 is putting out even more and better/smoother bass. Is this me or is it the driver 'breaking in"?

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icehawk21 #428016 12/31/17 04:14 PM
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Personally, I believe that speaker break in is real. That said I don't think it is what many manufacturers state it is. In many cases they simply exaggerate the period of time required as to allow for the buyer to get accustomed to the sound. Some will use it to quell returns to a point beyond their trial period. I believe the actual break-in period is relatively short and based on driver size and material makeup. In most cases minutes and not the many hours often said to be needed. Another of the many audiophile arguments that will likely never be decided. Much like that of the need for speaker cables costing thousands of dollars. A can of worms for sure.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #428018 12/31/17 04:47 PM
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Speaker break-in is real. It's disputable whether or not the break-in is audible to humans.


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icehawk21 #428020 12/31/17 05:09 PM
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Apparently I was wrong....it has been decided.:) In personal experience, I did notice a change in my LFRs but I am not willing to go so far as to state that it was anything measurable or if it was only perceived, but to my ears/brain it was there.


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #428021 12/31/17 05:29 PM
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Break-in is measurable.


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I believe the actual break-in period is relatively short and based on driver size and material makeup.

Interesting story. I made a few identical speakers. They were put in place one at a time as I soldered up the speaker wires to the external crossovers. I was a little impatient if excited and listened to a channel at a time as soon as possible. As each one was finished I brought them online. When they were each fired up they sounded pretty harsh next to their neighbor. There was time between each one to listen as I worked along. Each time a new one fired up it was the same. Harsh for a few minutes. A little nerve wracking. laugh

Ok. Maybe not THAT interesting. lol.

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icehawk21 #428023 12/31/17 05:40 PM
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I remember that!


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I'd expect speakers to break in faster than subs because the suspension and surround for a sub is stiffer. Ian is sending me a second 800v4 so I'll have a chance to "test" if I can hear a difference. Likely not though since apparently the second sub spent time in the chamber being tested for gut punch mode.


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Even without time in the chamber I suspect the in home break-in for our Axioms is particularly short due to their factory QC testing, but it was certainly audible to me. I didn't take note of how long before I was in audio heaven but probably a matter of a few hours.


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