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#428557 - 02/02/18 02:05 PM M80ti's small room.
liquidchaos Offline
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Hello!

In our new house the only space I can fit my theater stuff is the small spare room. It is 12' wide by 11 feet deep, 9 foot ceilings.

Speakers will be about 8-8.5 feet apart and I will be about 8 feet from the front of them.
Are my m80s too big for this room?
Should I use port plugs if they aren't too big?

Thanks !

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#428559 - 02/02/18 02:28 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
brwsaw Offline
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I'm 8'8" from mine atm in a 12' wide room.
I have mixed feelings about being this close. On one hand they still sound great, on the other I can't shake the memory of them at 12' and 14' away.

Better to have an ht than not...

I've tried with and without port plugs, I like aspects of both.

At the moment mine are a foot off the floor and well off the front wall. Tweeter center to center 8'4 1/4".


Edited by brwsaw (02/02/18 02:38 PM)
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#428562 - 02/02/18 03:32 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
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Im in a room 15 x 15 roughly and about 6 ft from them and i wouldn't give them up for love or money . If you running subs and are concerned about the footprint that they use then get some M5 HP's on some FMS stands.
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#428564 - 02/02/18 05:08 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
Mojo Offline
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I don't know how you guys manage with M80s in these smaller rooms. Do you have mattresses covering your walls and ceilings?

I'd totally go M5HPs with a sealed sub. Space the M5HPs along the 11' dimension so they're 8 feet apart and 1.5' away from the sidewalls and the backs are a foot away from the wall. Then place your MLP 9.75 feet away from the face of the M5HPs on the diagonal. Don't toe them in.

Trade in your M80s if you have to.

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#428565 - 02/02/18 05:39 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: Mojo]
liquidchaos Offline
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Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Originally Posted By Mojo


I'd totally go M5HPs with a sealed sub.

Trade in your M80s if you have to.


Uh oh, sealed sub... I have two EP500s. Is that a problem too?

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#428566 - 02/02/18 07:36 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
Mojo Offline
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They must be version 2s? The ones with the large hole in their face? If they work for you, enjoy them.

Two of those in that room will resonate the sinew off your bones.

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#428567 - 02/02/18 08:19 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
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You are far too dramatic Mojo, seriously. This guy came asking for opinions from people that would have a similar setup and then you beak off like a know it all discounting everything we said. You should listen to yourself on tape before you post here.There is nothing wrong with sealed subs .
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#428568 - 02/02/18 08:48 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
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Just cross them over to the subs a little higher and turn down the sub channel as needed.

Its possible to reign them in if they load the room too much or are boomy sounding in there.
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#428570 - 02/02/18 08:55 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
Mojo Offline
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Richard, I didn't discount what you and Blair said. In fact, I pointed out how sub-optimal large speakers are in a room that size.

I have the benefit of knowing, in great detail, what M80s sound like in a 10x10x8, a 12x15x8, a 12x20x8 and a 22x30x7 room in my own house. I also have the benefit of knowing what bookshelves sound like in all of these rooms.

Armed with this information, I gave chaos the benefit of my experience including measurements that if followed, will produce an optimum auditory experience. I also recommended a sealed sub because the distortion components from a ported sub will wreak havoc in a room with those dimensions.

Blair's experience mirrors mine.


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#428571 - 02/02/18 09:06 PM Re: M80ti's small room. [Re: liquidchaos]
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Trevor, it's not only the lower frequency interaction that's a challenge. M80s need room to form a more enjoyable soundstage.

The unfortunate reality is that buyers want top of the line which usually means they purchase floorstanders without due consideration for the space they'll be in.

They then space them close together and sit 6 or 8 feet away. The speakers sound "great" only because the buyers don't have the room to hear them further apart and from further away. They have no idea what they're missing.

I've been there, done that and will never go there again. I want to evangelize the benefit of larger rooms or small speakers for smaller rooms which lead to a better integration.

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