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#430194 - 09/30/18 02:01 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: bman84]
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Yup. What Nick said.
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#430195 - 09/30/18 02:05 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: bman84]
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Great explanations, thanks guys! Not sure how I can pull off an M5HP for center, given the height. It would have to sit basically at floor level, which would probably hurt the sound.

I think i'm leaning towards the VP160 (non-mini) for center duty. Is it worth it to spend the extra $168 to add HP drivers? I'll be using an ADA1000 to drive L/C/R.


Edited by bman84 (09/30/18 02:24 PM)
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#430196 - 09/30/18 02:42 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: bman84]
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I have not noticed any issues running my standard 160 and I have it crossed at 40Hz. I think you'd blow your ear drums out and melt your eyeballs with sound pressure long before the standard 160 gave out. I have an ADA-1000-3 coming as well as the M5s. And QS10s. Good call on the 160 BTW. It's an amazing centre channel.

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#430198 - 09/30/18 03:03 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I have not noticed any issues running my standard 160 and I have it crossed at 40Hz. I think you'd blow your ear drums out and melt your eyeballs with sound pressure long before the standard 160 gave out. I have an ADA-1000-3 coming as well as the M5s. And QS10s. Good call on the 160 BTW. It's an amazing centre channel.


Nice. What's powering your 160 currently?
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#430201 - 09/30/18 03:55 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: bman84]
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My Onk TX-NR818. Now some who read this may think "Well, that's just an integrated receiver. If you had a real amp you'd tax your 160." I don't think so though. I sit 14' away from my 160 so at 1 Watt in, I am getting 80dB of SPL out. 80dB for me is loud. But let's say I'm feeling particularly feisty because I've had a sarsaparilla so I crank it to an average of 4W. Now I'm getting blasted by 86dB. That for me is a very uncomfortable nominal level. Even so, at 4W, I have another 15dB of headroom for music "transients" before my Onk reaches 64W. At 64W, the regular 160 doesn't even break a sweat because it's rated 250W continuous and 1000W dynamic.

You can see therefore how ridiculously loud one would have to be playing before the regular 160 is taxed or conversely how far away they'd have to be sitting from it. Then of course there's the question of how much better is the HP version which none of us know.
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#430203 - 09/30/18 04:05 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: bman84]
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Wow! Sounds like an ADA1000 should be more than enough to really crank it, and anything more is just for bragging rights.
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#430204 - 09/30/18 04:09 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: bman84]
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Exactly!
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#430216 - 10/01/18 03:59 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
My Onk TX-NR818. Now some who read this may think "Well, that's just an integrated receiver. If you had a real amp you'd tax your 160." I don't think so though. I sit 14' away from my 160 so at 1 Watt in, I am getting 80dB of SPL out. 80dB for me is loud. But let's say I'm feeling particularly feisty because I've had a sarsaparilla so I crank it to an average of 4W. Now I'm getting blasted by 86dB. That for me is a very uncomfortable nominal level. Even so, at 4W, I have another 15dB of headroom for music "transients" before my Onk reaches 64W. At 64W, the regular 160 doesn't even break a sweat because it's rated 250W continuous and 1000W dynamic.

You can see therefore how ridiculously loud one would have to be playing before the regular 160 is taxed or conversely how far away they'd have to be sitting from it. Then of course there's the question of how much better is the HP version which none of us know.


Talked to Debbie at Axiom earlier today and she told me the same thing, more or less. No need to go HP on the 160, especially with a sub in the room.


Edited by bman84 (10/01/18 04:02 PM)
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#430217 - 10/01/18 07:32 PM Re: 7.1.4 basement HT build [Re: bman84]
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That's right, bman84. Physics in the eastern part of Canada are the same as in the west. smile
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