 Front/main L and R speaker toe in
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What amount of toe in have you found to be Beneficial with your front L and R speakers?
Can too much toe in cause audible issues? Does anyone use toe out, if so what has that done for your soundstage?
Just wondering, I’ve got a roll of blue tape and a protractor handy so I’ll play around a little.
Jeff
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With older (eg M60ti) speakers I got the best sound with them pointed straight ahead.
With recent speakers (M60v4, M5HP) I toe them in about 2/3 of the way from "straight ahead" to "straight at the listening position", although I haven't experimented with a bit more or less toe-in than that...
... basically went from "straight ahead" to "the usual amount I toe in", found the results were better (seemed a bit dull when pointed straight ahead, like most speakers do) and stopped there for now.
M60ti, VP180, QS8, M2ti, EP500, PC-Plus 20-39
M5HP, M40ti, Sierra-1
LFR1100 active, ADA1500-4 and -8
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I find my soundstage is at its widest and deepest when my M80v2 are not toed.
House of the Rising Sone
Out in the mid or far field
Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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I use a slight toe in but didn't want to much as I have 2 rows of seating.
M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350
AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85
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I have tried various widths and levels of toe in with my M60s and right now I find that they sound best and fill the room better when pointed almost straight forward. I too have 2 rows of seats.
Farewell - June 4, 2020
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I think it depends a bit on how old the speakers are - I found earlier versions needed to be closer to "straight ahead".
M60ti, VP180, QS8, M2ti, EP500, PC-Plus 20-39
M5HP, M40ti, Sierra-1
LFR1100 active, ADA1500-4 and -8
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You have it all wrong,
1. You put your left toe in
2. You take your left toe out
3. You do the hokey pokey and you shake it all about
Anthem: AVM60, Fosi DAC-Q5
Axiom: ADA1500, LFR1100 Actiive, QS8, EP500, M3, M3comp, M5
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Re: Front/main L and R speaker toe in
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Noooooooo!!! Do not do that! You cause reflections and diffraction in the acoustic field.
House of the Rising Sone
Out in the mid or far field
Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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