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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
Dragbug #430649 12/10/18 02:33 PM
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I've checked the other drivers so far and they all seem to be ok sounding to my untuned ears. My ears are only able to detect distorted sounds or no sounds lol. Everything else sounds great though. I haven't borrowed the Denon 6500 yet so still using the Sony 1080 and it honestly sounds pretty good. The VP180 has really shown me how much I have been missing on the vocal front.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Actually, if you listen up close to any driver, it should sound like total garbage. When you move further away, that's when the magic starts. smile

I felt the same way about the VP160v4 when I moved away from the VP150v2. And the M5s. And the QS10s. And the EP800v4. LOL!

When you get the Denon, make sure you run at least the 3-point Audyssey XT32 calibration. Or maybe you shouldn't because you may never be able to go back to your Sony.

Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Originally Posted By Mojo
The HP driver is more linear than the standard driver when it's cranked. "Cranked" has never been defined by Axiom but I'd say you're not likely to exceed 50 Watts average for your listening. That's 20% of the designed average which should be well under "cranked".


"Cranked" has been universally defined as turning it up to 11. No need for Axiom to define it further.

Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Deb is going to send a new driver for me to replace the bad one in the M60. I will borrow the Denon then and run the Audyssey calibration.

Speaking of, every single one of those calibration programs sets my speakers to large. And that includes the M22's. I have always manually set the M22's and the VP100 to small and 80 hz for obvious reasons but now that I have the M60 and the VP180, should those be set to large or or small?


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Originally Posted By TDIPablo

"Cranked" has been universally defined as turning it up to 11. No need for Axiom to define it further.


11? What is "it" and how do you know when you are at "11"?


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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As a rule of thumb everyone recommends small setting. Then letting the sub or subs handle the bass. Allaround better for your AVR not to need really high Wattage.

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I have an 11. It's 22 x 0.5dB increments above 0 on my Onk. It sounds like garbage because it pushes my Onk into clipping.

Like Brendo said...set to small.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Originally Posted By Dragbug
but now that I have the M60 and the VP180, should those be set to large or or small?

My M60's and VP180 are set to small. Probably still 80Hz crossover but IIRC the previous VP100 was the limiting factor for going lower.

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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I have an 11. It's 22 x 0.5dB increments above 0 on my Onk. It sounds like garbage because it pushes my Onk into clipping.

Like Brendo said...set to small.


That reminds me of something that irritated me about the Denon X2300 I had. The volume increased/decreased in .5 increments. Any idea if the newer ones still do that? Feel like I am talking myself out of the Denon receivers, and maybe I am. I know they are supposed to be really good quality but the one experience I have had with them so far (x2300) was painfully dreadful compared to the Sony's (1050 and now the 1080). I just know my 1080 can't really be upgraded and can't really compare to receivers like the 6500 and now that I have these better speakers, I want to be able to really take advantage of them and I know this Sony can only do so much. Well, bright side, if the 6500 bugs me, I can just give it back to my friend lol.

Thanks for the help guys. I will keep them set to little then. That's what I thought I read in the past but couldn't remember for sure.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
Dragbug #430668 12/12/18 02:05 PM
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Setting your mains to small seems to be quite common, more so if you're only using an AVR to power everything. When I run Audyssey, it sets my fronts to large, which I tend to agree with since I'm running separates for all channels (300wpc). The AVR only has to worry about processing. IMO, the benefit of running your fronts large are evening out the bass...also seems pointless to buy large towers and big centers that are capable of (near) full range, only to neuter their bass. I do agree however, that if you're only powering with your AVR, it's probably better to let the sub (amp) do the heavy lifting on the bass.

As a side note, I believe Ian's preference is to run "large" on the fronts.


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