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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
Dragbug #430682 12/13/18 09:10 PM
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My bad, doesn't appear to have one from the images online.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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If there is a fuse, it's likely not accessible without lifting the top cover. Try pressing the power button for 5 seconds and watch what the LCD panel says (if anything).


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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I downloaded the manual online and didn't see any reference to a fuse so if there is, it's not meant to be user accessible.

The troubleshooter says "This unit’s amplifier circuit has failed. Unplug the power cord and contact our customer service center" based on how my friend described how the receiver was acting when he turned it on. He already contacted the place he got it from and they are sending him a replacement and a return shipping label. And so the waiting game continues. Still waiting for the replacement driver for my M60 anyway.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
Dragbug #430686 12/14/18 12:39 AM
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Dragbug, can you describe what you hear through the M60s in 2.0 or 2.1?


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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You referring to the bad driver? If so, it's a blown voice coil. Back in the day I used to run a lot of high end car audio and would run into bad voice coils. That's exactly how this driver sounds and feels when you lightly push in on it. Lots of distortion and resistance with grinding when you push in on the driver.

I am a bit surprised to receive a new speaker with an already blown voice coil though. I have only blown voice coils when over driven or if there was a power spike. Never had one new in the box. Although I don't know if Axiom tests each driver before shipping. Perhaps something happened during testing.

If the bad driver wasn't what you were referring to, my bad.... smile

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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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I know what a blown driver sounds like. It doesn't sound at all. smile

I'm wondering what your listening impressions are.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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The way you guys talk, I would be more like a bull in a china shop trying to explain what I hear. Right now, All I have done so far is hook up the speakers to the Sony 1080. I have not even rerun the calibration yet and i can tell you that they sound better. Much better then the M22's. More volume, more clarity. I wanted to wait to get the replacement driver before I run the calibration. PLus I really want to see how the Denon 6500 really brings out the new speakers.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Yeah...the clarity and volume is definitely immediately obvious.

Initially, I never bothered to re-calibrate when I replaced the M80v2 with M3v4 and M5HP. I could immediately hear the differences I reported. I am just curious if you hear what I heard in your less-than-ideal setup.


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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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I know the calibration currently is less than ideal for these speakers and I think the Sony is struggling with the different ohms of the VP180 and the M60. The M60 are light in volume compared to the VP180. But then, the VP180 puts out a lot more volume than the VP100 did so I think it is over powering the M60's right now. Even though the M60's are putting out more volume than the M22's, I don't think it's as much of a difference volume wise as it was between the VP100 and the VP180.

I was reading the manual for the Denon 6500 and I know is specifically said that if even one speaker was 4 ohms and the rest were 8 ohms, that you needed to set the receiver to run at 4 ohms. The Sony doesn't really say anything. I don't know if that would have any effect on the VP180 or M60 output either.

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Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180...
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Don't set it to 4 Ohms! It will reduce the voltage and hence the available power to the speakers. Once you calibrate, it will all sound fine.


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