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#431612 - 03/15/19 10:35 PM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: bman84]
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Brendo, I can't hear a difference between my 12 ga Home Depot cable and my Monster Cable with M80v2. But I can hear a difference with M5 and M100v4. Monster sounds better. You'd have to hear it to believe it.


The bulk Home Depot speaker wire that I've seen is copper-clad aluminum, so that might explain it.


That may be the case now. Mine is just over 12 years old and I can attest there is no aluminum. Even if it was, why the difference between the v2 and v4? I'll tell you why. v4 is vastly superior. Let me say that again. v4 is VASTLY superior. It can't, just can't get any better except with a digital cross-over.


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#431613 - 03/15/19 10:50 PM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
Originally Posted By bman84
Originally Posted By Mojo
Brendo, I can't hear a difference between my 12 ga Home Depot cable and my Monster Cable with M80v2. But I can hear a difference with M5 and M100v4. Monster sounds better. You'd have to hear it to believe it.


The bulk Home Depot speaker wire that I've seen is copper-clad aluminum, so that might explain it.


That may be the case now. Mine is just over 12 years old and I can attest there is no aluminum. Even if it was, why the difference between the v2 and v4? I'll tell you why. v4 is vastly superior. Let me say that again. v4 is VASTLY superior. It can't, just can't get any better except with a digital cross-over.


Ah ok. I bought some in 2013 and returned it as soon as I realized it was CCA. Currently using Monoprice Access 12 guage, which seems to be quality stuff.
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#431614 - 03/15/19 11:02 PM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: bman84]
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This CCA shit just has to go!

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#431616 - 03/16/19 08:58 AM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: brendo]
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Originally Posted By brendo
As for sound quality you probably wont be able to notice a big difference. Just a little peace of mind with big burly connectors and better length. {Axiom fam. are big advocates for letting you know cables are snake oil} They've done multiple testing's with the N.R.C. and their findings have shown no one can truly tell the difference.
Luckily majority of these companies produce so many that if anything they'll replace or refund promptly no question.


Interesting! I was looking around for some solid, double-blind studies proving/disproving the impact of pricy interconnects.


Edited by bman84 (03/16/19 08:59 AM)
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#431617 - 03/16/19 10:05 AM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: bman84]
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bman, you sure are taking a keen interest in all things audio, eh? Have you always been like this or has something changed?
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#431618 - 03/16/19 10:34 AM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: Mojo]
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bman, I think when your TV wasn't wall-mounted, it interfered with the "early reflections" curve that Axiom designed to. This curve is responsible for image width, stability and timber. The curve is taken from 40 degrees to 80 degrees across (also 50 degrees up and down but that's not relevant here).

I've always wondered though what level of engineering goes into the on-walls and in-walls. How is the family of curves adjusted for these models? Are new curves taken? If so, how do they account for the wall?

Likely Axiom will remain guarded around these questions. Although the science and characterization methodology around the parametric curves are well-established, there are nuances to testing and interpretation, as well as extension to non-traditional speaker designs, that are company secrets.

Anyway, you have a great system there and it will bring you all a lot of enjoyment. We are extremely fortunate to be part of a minority on this planet who can enjoy high fidelity so we should be very grateful.


Wow, a lot of science behind this. All I know about the in-walls is that bringing the drivers just that tiny bit forward of the wall plane dramatically improves their sound. Many lesser in-walls fail to consider this in their design.
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#431619 - 03/16/19 10:39 AM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
bman, you sure are taking a keen interest in all things audio, eh? Have you always been like this or has something changed?


I've been interested in this stuff for ages, but only recently had the opportunity (and means) to spec out a serious setup.
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#431620 - 03/16/19 11:16 AM Re: ADA Noise Floor [Re: bman84]
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