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Re: Out with the old and in with the new
Mojo #431665 03/29/19 04:47 PM
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That's amazing! Sounds like the published specs on the 1000-3 are extremely conservative. It would be difficult for me to justify stepping up from my M5/180/1000-3 combo in a <2,500 cuft space, especially with the 180 doing the heavy lifting in movies. The only downside on the 1000-3 is the lack of XLR inputs, but I'm not sure that they're really necessary for 3-ft interconnect runs.

I had a chance to watch a bit of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (4K Bluray w/Atmos), and it sounded phenomenal. For me, -10 was quite loud, and -15 was comfortable.

I also listened to a bit of Miles Davis' Kind Of Blue (Legacy Edition, FLAC) and found it hard to tear myself away to go back to work. I've tended to stay away from upmixing modes for music listening, but the effect of all 11 speakers working together in Dolby Surround (Pro Logic on steroids) is pretty incredible. Closing my eyes, it was easy to forget that I wasn't listening to live music.


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Re: Out with the old and in with the new
Mojo #431666 03/29/19 05:35 PM
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Yes, I think you've chosen very well for your system in your smaller space and closer listening distance. I eventually had to turn Rampage down to -20 BTW. Even -15 was too loud.

No need to worry about XLR inputs.


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Re: Out with the old and in with the new
Mojo #431738 04/08/19 03:10 AM
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Alright, so I played my M100s full band along with the 800. Normally they are crossed at 80Hz. I tried the ADA-1000 and the 1500. I turned my Onk up to 0 with Renee Olstead's Hit the Road Jack on Tidal HD. This song is absolute torture in a couple of spots and shuts my Pioneer and 1000 down long before my ears give out when played with the power hungry M5s. With the M100, at 0 on my Onk, the 1000 doesn't shut down but it's definitely losing control of the low end. When I switch in the 1500, it's all wonderful and nicely controlled.

At +5 on the Onk, the 1500/M100 pair sounds controlled and VERY visceral. By +3, the 1000's right channel self-protects. With the M5 switched in, the 1000 shuts down its right channel at about -3 (even with an 80Hz cross-over). The M5 keeps going with the 1500 all the way to +5 but the M5 doesn't sound too pretty (even with an 80Hz cross-over). The low end gets pretty wobbly and the high end is shrill. I am sure the M5 can take more punishment from the 1500 but what's the point if it's misbehaving.

To give you an idea of how loud all this is, recall I am 13 ft away in a 4200 cu ft room. At +5, the 100/1500 pair is at 112.5dBC peak, fast-sampled. At 0, the same pair is 107dBC. I'll point out again that my meter may be missing the true peaks.

0 is tolerable but +5 is not only intolerable; it is INSANE!

P.S. An interesting point is that song peaks lower on Spotify Premium. It's like the true peaks are missing on Spotify.

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I got about 2 hrs of sleep last night. I couldn't pull myself away from the M100s. I listened to Kind of Blue bman. Some of those tracks many times over. I could see them lined up across and into the stage. Amazing!

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Re: Out with the old and in with the new
Mojo #431762 04/10/19 04:55 PM
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I said above +5 is intolerable and that's true for Renee Olstead's song. This morning I set the M100s to play full range with 800 on (what Onk calls double bass). I listened to Wycliffe Gordon's St. Louis Blues (all three versions) on Spotify and hot damn...I gave that sucker +5 and then a bit more and it shook my innards! Admittedly I can't listen to that level for long...I wish I could...but even at 0 it was marvellous. My Onk just can't retain its composure at 0 gain.

That was 1100 peak Watts on each side and that may be low because my meter may not be responding fast enough. The M100/1500 combo sounded so absolutely composed at that level.

Damn it all! Now I may be getting hooked on that 1500 like I got hooked on the v4s. I really, really hate Axiom! LOL!


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Re: Out with the old and in with the new
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Re: Out with the old and in with the new
Mojo #431775 04/11/19 08:44 AM
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Oh cool. A 7-position BGC switch! Special pricing on the ADA amps too. Are the ADA-1500 monoblocks bridged?

Re: Out with the old and in with the new
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I found the power limit to my 160v4. I have it crossed over at 40Hz. I was watching Black Summer with the 1500-3 in the mix. The Onk was at +5...LOL! I was pushing a little over 900 peak Watts into it. It's rated for 1000 peak Watts. During those peaks, it sounded a bit squirrelly although any guest at my place would not have noticed. I crossed it over at 80Hz and all was good.

Incidentally, when the planes and gunshots were going on at that +5 gain, it scared the bejeezus out of me and my heart kept skipping beats. I had the M100s on full range. They are normally crossed at 80Hz when driven with my Onk.


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Re: Out with the old and in with the new
Mojo #431841 04/13/19 07:27 PM
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Planes and gun shots...I love my speakers...



Re: Out with the old and in with the new
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Yeah! When the apocalypse cometh, we can just break out our gunshot blu-rays and crank her to keep the marauders at bay.


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