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#432499 - 06/08/19 01:58 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
brendo Offline
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It works really good for sub placement as well. Lots of boom. Every ones favorite track from him was called, Make The Car Go Boom.

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#432513 - 06/10/19 01:02 AM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
Mojo Offline
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I twerked to make the car go boom today in the presence of church ladies who were none too pleased with my evil shenanigans.
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1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#432801 - 07/10/19 05:57 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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As I said in a previous post, I replaced the M50s with the M100s in my living room. I said sonically, the M100s blew the M50s out of the water. While this is true, I just can't seem to relax while listening to M5s or M100s in this room. Even when I'm cooking up a storm in the adjacent kitchen, the M50s are more enjoyable. I chalk it all up to the lively nature of my main floor.

A review of the M50 will make it over to Axiom for potential posting on the product page. BTW, it's great to see Axiom doesn't edit any of my reviews. Both good and not so good things made it in. They've botched up my "oh so careful" formatting though which makes some of my reviews difficult to read.
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A-LFR/1000-8 & 2/500v4x2
1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#433027 - 08/17/19 04:24 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
Mojo Offline
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In order to get the "tightest" bass possible out of my M50s in the living room, I had to move the front baffles 7'2" from the front wall. So they're a third into my living room now.

They're running in 2.0 off an ADA-1000 which is plenty for the M50 without any EQ. The source is a Chromecast Audio connected to the 1000. The M50 starts to distort before the 1000 gives out. My ears give out before that.

This depth into the room isn't a criticism of the M50. It's physics. If you don't want to deal with physics, buy the Bose 601 which has a low end of 250Hz. You can place those a foot away from the wall and call it good.

BTW, this 7 foot distance gives an incredibly deep soundstage. Butting them up against the wall won't achieve that.
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A-LFR/1000-8 & 2/500v4x2
1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#433219 - 09/07/19 10:29 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
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I gave up the soundstage depth for more width and a more satisfying room arrangement. I may still try to move the M50s further out from the wall for more depth. Right now the center image on many songs is coming from outside my bow window. I'd like to see if I can do that with the entire soundstage. I'm gonna live with this for a while because it's pretty darned satisfying.

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A-LFR/1000-8 & 2/500v4x2
1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#433236 - 09/09/19 10:46 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
Mojo Offline
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I am seriously impressed with these M50s. I've just made them completely disappear in my living room with a 3 second tweak! More on that when I feel like getting out of my chair to snap a photo.
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A-LFR/1000-8 & 2/500v4x2
1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#433261 - 09/12/19 09:41 AM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
You moved them outside ?
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#433263 - 09/12/19 09:51 AM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
Mojo Offline
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Lol, I nearly choked on my coffee. Actually I moved my MLP 4 feet off the back wall and it was like the already clear images got a heck of a lot sharper. And the extreme left and right of my soundstage expanded beyond the speakers. A good thing got a heck of a lot better but the chair position sure looks funny.
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A-LFR/1000-8 & 2/500v4x2
1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#433287 - 09/13/19 09:06 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
I found the same thing with M60's... the further I pulled them away from the wall the better they sounded. That was one of the reasons I traded for M5HPs.

I'm trying to reconcile that statement with the fact that I have a truck full of LFR1100 actives sitting outside.


Edited by bridgman (09/13/19 09:06 PM)
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LFR1100 actives

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#433292 - 09/13/19 09:23 PM Re: M50v4 vs M3v4 [Re: Mojo]
Mojo Offline
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Registered: 01/21/07
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It apparently won't matter where you place the active LFRs...within reason. Let's see how well that BGC switch works on the DSP.

John, you're getting to work on those this weekend, right? You've been away from audio too long.
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A-LFR/1000-8 & 2/500v4x2
1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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