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#431952 - 04/27/19 04:37 PM Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl
pheare Offline
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Hi,

I am likely going to be upgrading my front sound stage from M22s and a m2 (center channel).

Thinking about M60s for left/right. Was looking at the vp150 for center, but I don't see a lot of people talking about it.

Discussion seems to be either vp160 or vp180.

the 180 is getting to be more than I want to spend, so likely looking at the 160.

Thoughts on this?

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#431953 - 04/27/19 04:59 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: pheare]
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Being you are looking at M22 the 150 should be adequate.

Although with the amount of details the center does nowadays, the 160 is more recommendable. Plus it plays awesome with the M22.

I went with 160 myself. Highly recommended if you have the space it is rather tall

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#431955 - 04/27/19 05:13 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: brendo]
pheare Offline
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Originally Posted By brendo
Being you are looking at M22 the 150 should be adequate.

Although with the amount of details the center does nowadays, the 160 is more recommendable. Plus it plays awesome with the M22.

I went with 160 myself. Highly recommended if you have the space it is rather tall


I have the m22s now. But will likely be replacing them with the M60s.

I suspect the vp160 will be the way to go.

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#431961 - 04/27/19 08:00 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: pheare]
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VP160, 100%! Centre channel handles most of your movie content. You'll want it to be as close to full-range as possible.

I'm thrilled with the sound of the 180 in my setup (chose it over the 160 due to the shorter height). Watching Smallfoot as we speak (resident 2yr old is obsessed) and the yeti-speak is reproduced flawlessly.


Edited by bman84 (04/27/19 08:08 PM)
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#431962 - 04/27/19 08:27 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: pheare]
Mojo Offline
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I had the 150v2. Stay away!

I upgraded to the 160v4. It's sitting 14 feet away in my 4200 cu ft room. Absolutely thrilled with it. I saw your room. It will work like magic.

Which version of the M22s do you have and what are you using for amplification and subbage?
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#431963 - 04/27/19 08:50 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: Mojo]
pheare Offline
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I had the 150v2. Stay away!

I upgraded to the 160v4. It's sitting 14 feet away in my 4200 cu ft room. Absolutely thrilled with it. I saw your room. It will work like magic.

Which version of the M22s do you have and what are you using for amplification and subbage?


M22 v3. Currently using a Denon avr-s900h. Have a Denon avr-x3500h on the way.

Running two SVS PB-2000s.

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#431964 - 04/27/19 09:06 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: pheare]
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If you are satisfied with how your M22 integrates with your SVSs, I suggest saving a few bucks and upgrading to the M22v4. The M22v4 has the new OhSoSweet tweeter and a re-worked cross-over to take advantage of advancements in Axiom's family of curves. Now I've never heard the M22v4 (only the M22Ti which I despised) but as you can see in my signature, I have the M3, M5 and M100 all v4. I heard the M3Ti and despised that as well. The M3v4 though sounds better than my old M80v2! And the M5 is twice the price but easily 4 times better than the M3v4. The M3v4 has an entirely new cross-over and the woofer doesn't rely on a mechanical filter.

Anyway, what I am trying to tell you is that Axiom made major changes to get to the amazing v4 sound. The sound is 3D...holographic. Read my reviews on the M3 and M5 product pages or my post "Out with the old and in with the new". I expect the M22 is the same. I wish I had it.

I saw you are running QS4s and QS8s. Man, am I ever glad I went to QS10HPs. Read my review on the product page. I don't have to upgrade to an Atmos receiver because they do what I call "virtual ATMOS". I was missing so much with the QS8s. I sit 11 feet away from them BTW and am doing 5.1 only because I've seen no benefit from 7.1 no matter what speakers I stick in the back.

P.S. You can trade in your M22v3 for v4.
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#431965 - 04/27/19 09:30 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: pheare]
pheare Offline
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Thanks for all the info. Something to think about for sure re. m22 v4. Though I kind of have my heart set on going with the M60s. smile

I actually just cancelled my Denon avr-x3500h order and am thinking about going for the x4500h instead and doing a 5.2.4 config.

Thinking about it more and reading Dolby Atmos home theater installation guide, I am not so sure my space will be conducive to the overhead speakers and will likely go with atmos enabled add-on speakers.

Though not sure how well those will timbre match with the axiom speakers or how big a deal it will actually be if the timbre match isn't exact.

I would be trading in quite a few speakers - the m22, qs4 and 8s and a single m2.


Edited by pheare (04/27/19 09:30 PM)

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#431969 - 04/27/19 11:03 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: pheare]
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The addons are not recommended for the type of ceiling you have. They are for flat ceilings. It would be more advisable to angle something like an on wall of the side of the beams or Axioms ceiling mounts pointed towards your MLP.

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#431970 - 04/27/19 11:16 PM Re: Seems no one is suggesting the vp150 center chanl [Re: pheare]
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On Brendo's point, I'll just throw in that you will hear a lot more detail with M5s compared to M3s. Better mid-range, lower and more linear bass, and more airy highs as well. The M5s need more power though due to the HP driver but that shouldn't be a problem for the 4500H.
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